Alaskan_Son

This is an extremely powerful and robust approach and what I recommend doing as well. If you're not aware, you can also group select those polylines and generate a combined material list. You can then even further filter your results afterward by editing the Layer Set being used for that Materials List.

You should send in a report as well if you care enough to see it fixed.

Perhaps not. The problems you're seeing are the type of thing pretty commonly caused by using that sort of methodology though so I thought it was worth mentioning just in case.

Your various room definitions from past changes keep carrying forward. You'll need to clear out those room definitions to get the expected behavior. Try this... Switch to a Wall tool Hold down the Shift key and group select all the room defining walls on the first floor using a Marquis (if you get extra walls in there, that's fine). Cut those walls to your clipboard Save the plan and close it. This will clear out the old room definitions from that plan. Open the plan right back up. Paste Hold Position Build Foundation You'll have to go back and redefine your various rooms as necessary, but this should return the foundation behavior to what you would normally expect. In my opinion this looks like yet another example of why Chief has always discouraged the Save As Method. It keeps carrying problems and file bloat forward from one plan to the next. In this case you had room definitions from prior plans or from prior plan iterations causing all sorts of problems. They would have automatically been cleared out from memory had the rooms (defining walls) been deleted from past plans, but it seems that never happened and so you were left chasing your tail because no matter what you did, those old room definitions kept taking over.

Again, changing that setting isn’t what’s doing it. Simply opening the dialog and making any change whatsoever will do the same thing...even just clicking Okay will do it.

You are correct. That capability is gone. It was replaced by some much more robust capabilities though IMO. And you can't configure “Dimensions, Overall” specifically for Automatic Dimensions. It is the system default so that if you open an automatic dimension and place a check in the Default checkbox, it will be moved to the "Dimensions, Overall" layer. Again though, clicking Okay will also simultaneously modify the string which will change its system default layer to "Dimensions, Manual" (legacy plans) or "Dimensions, Plan" (X13 templates). And sorry if my statements were confusing. I wasn't really suggesting using the Default checkbox or using the "clicking Okay" method. Just meant to describe how it works. By the way, I did make a mistake in my last post. I should have said.... I went back and corrected it. Hope that helps clarify things.

That layer appears to be the System layer that replaced the Dimensions, Automatic layer. It’s the top level system default layer (as opposed to the Saved Default layer) for Auto Story Pole Dimensions and the top level system default layer for automatic dimensions. As I pointed out in my post above though, that default is extremely temporary though and I’m guessing it was only left in there for legacy plans. Bottom line is that there are a couple top level default layers. For all intents and purposes though, they should hardly ever come into play. We can now control BOTH manual and automatic dimension strings at the Saved Default level which was a huge improvement. If you prefer to place manual and automatic dimensions on different layers, you still can, but I think for 95% of situations it’s still faster to do so using the new capabilities. Either change your active dimension default or just move to a different layer later. Like I said, you can even do so by simply opening the Auto Dimension string and checking Default.

Didn’t mean to jump to any conclusions. I chopped off the last part of the quote because it was irrelevant to my comment. And if you weren’t talking about the layer behaviors with then first part of your statement, the what were you talking about? Nobody ever said anything about Locate settings. I’ve read it through about 10 times and I can’t for the life of me figure out what you were getting at now if it had nothing to do with the layer. Anyway, even if you weren’t talking about the layer, my comment still stands. That setting is nothing more than a toggle for the locate settings. Not sure what that had to do with anything being discussed. It just seemed to be confusing matters.

Don't forget that we can also simply Import>Import Terrain Data without having to jump through quite as many hoops. The data can simply be imported from the aforementioned sources as simple csv/text file data.

A few ways to fix your problem, but I'll give you a couple hints. First off, both your roof and your ceiling are set to Use Room Ceiling Finish (Structure tab). The Room Ceiling Finish is only applied to the first roof or ceiling with that setting checked that Chief finds on its way up. Either uncheck the setting(s) or edit the roof/ceiling plane so that the ceiling plane is lower than the roof plane.

The setting your changing in the screenshots actually has nothing to do with the layer. That setting is specifically to specify which locate settings are to be used for that string if you should decide to use the Add Segments edit handle. It only appears as if its affecting the default layer because you're modifying the string. You could make any change though and get the same effect. In fact, you can even simply open the dialog and click okay to change the strings default layer. This behavior was actually the same in prior versions as well. Any modification to an Automatic Dimension string changes it to a manual dimension string and therefore changes the default layer. As far as the default layer for Automatic Dimensions in X13 still being "Dimensions, Automatic", I'm betting that is simply a legacy plan behavior to help ensure things carry over properly. It is a little odd though. Checking Default in X13 for an Automatic Dimension string will move it to the "Dimensions, Automatic" Layer, but, doing so will also modify the string, so as soon as you click okay, the default layer changes to "Dimensions, Manual". I have no problem with any of the new behaviors and appreciate the changes. The default layer thing is a little funky though.

You sure you don’t have this backward? Plot lines take far longer to update than live views do. I feel like I must be missing something.

Sorry, that wasn’t very clear was it. I was referring to the settings I mentioned in the post I referenced (they were mentioned in the graphic as well)... Floor Supplied By Foundation Room Below and Supplies Floor for the Room Above. Those along with the Floor To SWT setting.

You could have just adjusted those 2 settings. No need to rebuild the foundation.

Chief introduced a proper note tool several versions ago. These notes can be stored in the library and can automatically report to note schedules. It might help if you could be a little more specific.

See if this post help you at all...

I’ve done it both ways myself. The ceiling plane always seems like the logical solution and sounds like the right answer on the surface but it can result in all sorts of other little issues having to to do with wall intersections, snap behaviors and lack of refined edge placement and profile controls. The polyline solid is almost always a lot quicker and more flexible.

Several ways come to mind: After you've selected the Saved Plan View in your Project Browser, left click again. After you've selected the Saved Plan View in your Project Browser, right click>Rename After you've selected the Saved Plan View in your Project Browser, right click>Edit View Edit Active View

As Larry pointed out, the tabs are already using your Saved Plan View name. You can give them custom labels by renaming your Saved Plan Views. That's the best we currently have.

It sounds to me like you may have already used the Make Room Molding Polyline mentioned above. When you do that, the molding is removed from the room definition and replaced with a molding polyline. If you post the plan we would know for sure though.

Can you post that plan?

Is it a 3D DWG file?

You also need to make sure Edit>Edit Behaviors>Connect CAD Segments is toggled on.

I mostly agree except that I think it can also be suitable for side panels where the side panel is in line with adjacent door/drawer fronts (think islands where the end cabinet is rotated 90 degrees). Again though, accurate or not it doesn’t really bother me for the other circumstances because I think it looks more realistic and as you say, there are easy enough ways to make it accurate if you need it.

This statement is not entirely correct, at least not with regard to fills. Open Symbol Specification dialog, click on the 2D Block tab, make sure Fill is checked, and check Use Original Plan Colors.