Alaskan_Son

A few quick notes.. 1. You can use a material region instead of separate walls (I would probably use a material region for the center section if I went that route). 2. If you're trying to "paint" the material onto the wall, then the way to do is by using the Material Painter in Object mode. Anything else will cause the walls to rejoin and this happens with any walls, not just attic walls. 3. Most importantly, using the Material Painter really isn't the proper way to do that. It should have really been done with unique Wall Types from the start. If you place your breaks, group select the 2 outside walls (or one middle wall) and then simply change the Wall Type, then the walls shouldn't have rejoined. Should have been no reason to move anything out of alignment.

Ya. It definitely has it's benefits. Just throwing another option out there is all.

Never noticed that behavior before.

...and don't forget your Revision Cloud Defaults too.

Oh, right, I forgot you were talking about layout. My bad. Like I said though, don't forget to check you CAD Blocks too. If you have an object placed on that layer in any one of your CAD Blocks, then it will also say "Used in defaults"

Same place all your other Saved Defaults are located Joe...

You can also simply take an Orthographic Overview>View Direction>Top View, use Delete Surface as necessary>CAD Detail From View>Cut/Paste Hold Position>trace.

Not really sure what the question is, but yes, I have done what you are describing. Chief does however seem to commonly have a bit of an odd issue when the original plan is still open though. The layout continues to show the original plan even though it is tied to the new plan. I always forget what i need to do to clear it up. I think yo just need to save and re-open the layout though. Or maybe close the original plan. Not sure. Always able to clear it up though.

Check your CAD Blocks and CAD Details to start with. Check your Saved Defaults, not just your Default Sets. You may well have a Saved Default that isn't even being used. You'll have to delete or change the Default before you can delete the layer.

I would would recommend upgrading to X12 and then listing your new and existing windows in 2 entirely different schedules. Either that or handle New vs. Existing with an Object Information Field added to the schedule. What you're requesting is possible with some custom macros but not very efficient if you want to keep the callout shape.

They can only be done automatically with Auto Rebuild toggled on. Otherwise, yes...it's manual, but it can typically be done in under a minute.

If you set your various defaults back to EXACTLY what you've show in the screenshot above, what does the Default Set say? I'm just wondering if perhaps one little thing was off.

Tool works exactly like it did before. They just renamed it to Default Sets instead of Annotation Sets for continuity and clarity. It will always say "Active Defaults" unless you either select a specific Default Set or select a group of Defaults that matches a Default Set.

First thing is to decide whether you want to use a Fill or a material's Pattern. A Fill can be specified for pretty much any polyline based object using the Fill Style tab for that particular object. Fill styles can be set an an object by object basis. A Pattern can be specified only for each unique Material being used. For multiple Pattern offsets, this would mean multiple Materials. This is very easy to do using the Plan Materials dialog though. Next thing is to decide which type of object to use. This will vary depending on what the end goal is and on how much time you want to put in. For Plan Views you can use a plain Polyline with its fill, a Polyline Solid with its fill, a Material Region with its fill, or any other number of polyline based objects with their respective fill(s). Or, you could also use either a poyline solid converted to a solid or a Face which would allow you to actually use the Pattern in plan view. For Elevations and Sections you can use a plain Polyline with its fill, or any number of other object types. Aside from the plain polyline though, you will mostly just be working with Materials and their Patterns in these views though. For other 3D views you'll be limited to using just Materials and their Patterns. Lastly (and to answer the main question posed), you'll have to shift the Fill or Pattern offsets. To do this I use CAD Detail From View. Just click on that tool and then take any measurements you need to obtain your offsets from that view. Really pretty easy. I typically use a line and just copy the line length to get a precise number. 2 additional quick tips though... If you're using a Solid or Face to show the Material Pattern in Plan View, you'll have to use an Orthographic Overview from View Direction>Top View to get a usable CAD Detail From View. If you're using a Material and its Pattern, I suggest always setting the Texture offsets as well either manually or by checking "Keep Pattern/Texture in Sync" before making any changes.

It's funny, I've read the opening dialog of that Import Drawing Assistant and I've considered sending in a request that it be scrapped. It really seems like it serves very little use. Admittedly however, I'm not so sure I've ever read the closing dialog until Glenn just posted it. I wonder if its because I've just become jaded by the opening dialog and its lack of substance? Or maybe it's because of all the same "Your blah blah blah has finished installing" dialogs that we're used to simply clicking "Okay" or "Done" on these days. Who knows. I am however convinced that almost NOBODY reads that screen though as evidence that until I mentioned it today, I have never once heard or read anyone anywhere in the 9 years I've spent on this forum mention that we can import anything from paper space. On the contrary, I've heard and read the opposite mentioned many many times. Wonder how long that little note has been in there?

Yep. Obviously haven't read it too well though : ) By the way, that dialog needs to be re-worded. It's not imported into a CAD Detail window. It's imported as a CAD Block.

I must not have posted loud enough earlier in the thread. I'll try to speak up next time.

Thanks Mick. Never read that article before. I added a note to one of my posts above to clarify that its only the first page of paper space that gets imported.

Place it over in layout (Chief's relative equivalent of paper space) and the size doesn't seem quite small). In the example posted above though, there seems to be some weird scaling going on though.

Chief only imports from model space. It's paper space that looks like it never gets imported. It usually does though (at least the first page)...just as a CAD Block and only as a CAD Block (not placed in the plan). It's a sort of unique use that Chief has built in.

Why not use layers in model space?

It's really not all that uncommon, and (just like in Chief), I think it's typically bad practice. I only discovered this recently myself, but it seems paper space information is always imported as a CAD block like that. NOTE: It's only the first page of paper space information that gets imported. Oh, and by the way, Quick Tip... If you open CAD Block Management and click Okay without actually Inserting the "*Paper_Space" CAD block while Automatically Purge Unused CAD Blocks is checked, then you will lose it. You can always Undo to get it back, but I commonly make the mistake of hitting Okay instead of Insert so figured I'd throw that out there.

The reason I say to check your CAD Blocks is that the items you're "missing" were imported as a sort of disconnected CAD Block. It looks like those text notes were added in paper space (essentially AutoCAD's version of Layout) and as such they're not actually part of the drawing itself. You can however resize and reposition but you'll have some cleanup to do with the way text was formatted during the import.

I use the Tab key. Hit Tab while you're dragging and then enter location/distance/direction parameters.

Check your CAD Blocks