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Beat me to it once again, @DBCooper That's what I was thinking too -- Try using the Back Clipped Cross Section to create an elevation of just that one wall to eliminate the back wall's framing, and check to make sure the layer is on in th Section View's layer set.

To be normal honest: there's a lot going on here - too much to give a simple answer. To be brutally honest: your baselines stress me out. I had to just ignore them and focus on matching fascia heights. One big tip to start though: that one roof plane that's jutting up too high needs to match the 6:12 pitch of the main roof just so that it can even join the rest. After that, it's a game of massaging things into place. I played with this for a little while before I got it to fit together nice n tight. In a design like this you're guaranteed to have different fascia heights, but the trick it getting them to match where they need to, then reshaping the overbuilding areas. In a lot of places you can open one roof plane, copy the Fascia Top Height and paste it to adjoining roof plane, locking the Pitch. As long as they have the same overhang depth and fascia height, the Join should be good. One big hurdle here though is that main 6:12 plane on the top has different fascia heights: You cant copy the fascia height from this one since it'll take the lowest fascia (the right edge). To get the left edge fascia height you'll either need to manually measure in elevation or draw a new roof plane over that wall -- the Move to be Coplanar roof tool works wonders for this. Pull that left edge back off the wall, draw a small roof plane over that wall and Move to be Coplanar with the large roof. Then copy it's fascia height around to 9:12 plane on the left. There's probably a good half dozen other snags you may run into here though - I know some people on here offer training services, as does Chief directly. I'd probably suggest looking into that.

There's definitely something more going on: but yeah, agreed, go through that article try some other PDF writer software - in the days before chief had a built in PDF Export feature we used to have to use things like PDF995 or CutePDF, sometimes they avoid some of these weird issues.

If I were to guess, it seems Mulled units look to Windows Defaults for their schedule info. Go into Window Defaults and change it to Fixed and see if that fixes it, it did for me.

Looking at an object in Chief that is already setup to work like this will help understand how to configure ones you've imported in. Placing a dishwasher from the catalog into a plan and opening it, you'll see on the 3D panel there's an Origin Offset that's used to re-position the object so that it sits inside the cabinet it's placed in. Of course that only does what it's supposed to if on the Options panel its set to Inserts into Cabinet Front. Edit: Oh, just noticed X13 in your sig, in older versions you have to use Open Symbol, instead of Open Object. If you're dealing with Imported objects they should be in your User Catalog, you can just right-click them there

This is pretty easy to reproduce, it certainly does seem to treat "+" and "/-" as different things.* "correct" is subjective - I'm sure a software engineer may have a way to justify this behavior that makes no sense to the rest of us. I don't think it ever hurts to report something you feel is wrong. *Edit: I got it to wrap "+/" and "-" so I'm guessing it's just not treating a string of symbols as a "word"

I assume Ryan's point was to educate that you can ask the Forum, or you can ask Help. Just searching "Cursor" brings you to that topic. Also take note of all the other cursors in that list, there are a few on there that can seem to appear mysteriously.

Ah. Mostly the same as above, Right-Click> Open With, but select "Other" instead of just choosing X12. You can set the default there. *Edit: see https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/how-to-manage-file-associations-in-macos/

Yeah it's absolutely File Association, there's no such thing as X12 "saving an X8" file, Windows just says ".plan files open with [program]", yours is set to X8 still. you can also just right-click the plan file and choose "Open With", select X12 and make sure its set to always open files of that type. Do the same for a Layout file.

There's a Button right on the Library Browser, too

Oooh. I don't think X12 had that.

Sure, it's the small triangle.

Glad you got it sorted - framing out the whole area like a small room like that would have been my next suggestion, it really is the best way to work with walls. Making them really thick causes all sorts of weird issues and more often than not just complicates the situation.

"best practice" depends on what you're after. Ponywall works fine so long a you don't need super precise framing -- remember that the wall thickness determines stud thickness, and 2x18 studs are uh... rare. X15 seems to allow this just fine, but it may be different in older versions. If you place a niche and then drag it down in a 3D view, it should jump to the lower walls surface once its fully "in" the lower wall. The other trick is that you're wanting a niche in both upper and lower walls, but as far as the program is concerned that's the same location on that wall. Probably the easiest method would be to place one in the upper wall, set it's height etc., then use the Copy/Paste > Paste Hold Position and drag the copy down to the lower wall. This is correct - these objects are setup to attach to walls - the back of a niche is--well, part of a niche. it's not seen as "wall". But if you place an outlet on the wall in Plan view, you can then open it and set it's height and Offset from wall - setting a Negative offset will push it into the wall, so if the niche is 3" deep -3" Offset will flush it to the niche's back surface.

I think this tends to happen more for common materials, things like, "color - white" etc., because you can find them in different catalogs. I think they're literally different versions of the same material. That's why I always check Plan Materials first, over adding from the Library.

Huh. Well I played with this longer than I should have. So, Find in Plan in the Materials List pointed me to the framing under the Stairs - so it's not the curved roof like you originally said, the issue is specifically curved walls under stairs. And it's not anything you did, it's very easily reproduceable on a new plan. The big problem is I'm not sure how to fix it. Changing the size on the Components panel doesn't update the Materials List, and when I updated the materials list to just say 2"x4", it just reverted on me when I made another change. So I'm not really sure on this one. Send it to Chief!

That's absolutely correct, Plan Materials are materials that are "in use". anywhere in the plan. Think of it like Layers. There are lots you can't delete, even if there's nothing on them - because some Default somewhere is set to use it. Check under Default Settings, Materials, then ... well, go through all your defaults, I suppose. Default materials is where it gets trickier, for sure.

lol I do prefer blue as a general color preference so I appreciate it. Joe's Materials List suggestion isn't a bad idea either, consider it, well, lists materials. It just means scrolling through a potentially big list instead of visually identifying it. Whatever works!

Unfortunately, no. There's no "Find in plan" sort of tool for materials - what I do if it's used and can't be purged and I have no idea where it is, is to Edit it, go to Texture, and under Material Color enable Blend with Texture and set it bright Red. Then scope around the plan. Floor Overviews are handy. Go find that bright red color, then use Material Painter in Plan scope to replace it with something you actually want. Since Plan scope replaces is everywhere it exists, you'll immediately be able to purge it.

The first thing to keep in mind is how the chief displays text in Plan view by default -- there's default text sizes that it uses to keep things legible, but that doesn't show what it actually is going to look like. Toggling Print Preview (right toolbar) will show the true text size, for line styles as well as dimensions, text, labels, etc. With Print Preview off, it makes it a guessing game, 'cause as you zoom out the text will remain the same size on the screen, becoming relatively larger in the view. Toggling it on will show the actual size as it'll be seen on the layout this is plan vs layout. Also note that the line styles on the layout are the same viewable size regardless of Layout Box Scale ^ If the sizes of the ones chief supplies in the Library are too big/small/whatever, you'll need to add the Line Style to your user library to fiddle with it.

Not sure if that's a default Toolbar button -- if you don't have it up there, go to 3D, Materials, Plan Materials.

Ah, yeah that too - good point, Glenn. I find it's best to just ignore those buttons, the default choice is usually best.

Okay Oprah, calm down Star rating would be nice - though it entirely depends on if the forum even supports such a thing. That aside, people don't like change, so it likely won't. Oh well!

It can get somewhat involved, depending on how deep you wanna go. It makes sense if you need 'em often to have a saved plan view saved in your template - this is the first thing covered in this vid: https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/10258/ceilings-vault-shed-trey-a-reflected-plan.html

Naturally!! lol