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I would definitely do the upgrade to x12 even with the 970 it will be fine, ( and it's paid for ) but X13 has numerous "little" issues for me but thankfully not many crashes, however CA is getting more expensive all the time and SSA is still the cheapest way to stay current, get a few years behind and it is a major reinvestment. Buying a complete System is still the "cheapest" way to get another 3080/3080Ti , MarkMc got his new(ish) Desktop from AXA Direct and is happy with them.... https://www.avadirect.com/ M.

Is your Signature accurate? are you using a 970 GTX rather than an 3000 Series as Dermot mentioned in the other thread? see below now Just wanted to give you all a quick update... Our testing team is still having problems finding a reliable way of reproducing this problem or any reliable workarounds. They have setup a special test machine with a specific test case that will randomly crash but they have found it can take anywhere from 20 to 2,500 consecutive tries to get the problem. We are trying out new fixes using new theories daily but this random behavior is making it very difficult to find a solution quickly. Our current theory is that this is a video card driver issue with the new Windows 11 OS. We are also trying to work with Nvidia to see if they can help us find a solution for this problem. When we last spoke to them, they said they could not reproduce the problem. Unfortunately, they were not actually using a 3000 series card on Windows 11 when they tried. Hopefully, we can get this problem looked at by someone else there that is a little more experienced. If you are having this problem, and you have a reliable way of reproducing it or a reliable way of avoiding it, please contact our technical support team and give them whatever information you might have. Also, if you have an Nvidia 3000 series card and you are still using Windows 10, I would highly recommend that you do not upgrade to Windows 11 just yet. Again, we apologize for any inconvenience that this is causing and please be assured that this is still our top priority.

I am using a 3000 Series RTX Card...... see my signature, that's why I commented..... Desktop 1: Custom Built Tower including a 10700KF CPU On GigaByte Aorus Elite AX Mobo. , 1 and 2TB Samsung 970 Evo+ SSD, 32GB RAM HyperX 3600mhz ram and a 10GB EVGA Nvidia RTX 3080 XC3 ULTRA

I am on Win10 , but only seem to see this issue when I am working in older plans started in Earlier Versions and have been seeing it since Beta. I also have the bad Black Flashing Issue still when Sending to layout and Saving Cameras on occasion. https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/topic/32432-send-to-layout-and-save-view-issue-black-screen-flashes/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-255566 Mick.

Your 2nd post over there is most interesting except many are NOT using Windows 11 like myself..... https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/topic/32694-x13-internal-rendering-error-crash/?do=findComment&comment=257364 M.

You could test that by backing up your User Library ( Export Function) , then delete the User Library File , Chief will replace it with a fresh User library (empty) which should let you see if you have a Corrupt User Library Symbol , been a few years but it has happened to me in the past. M.

Might also be this....... https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/topic/18908-signature-here-at-chief-talk/?tab=comments#comment-155662 Mick

I think the exports are "Dumb" ie you get just the Text similar to a .CSV file. M.

definitely need more details but it sounds like a Graphics Card / Driver Issue to me.... https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-03140/forcing-chief-architect-programs-to-use-a-specific-graphics-card-in-windows-10.html Mick

Not with a Single pc lying on the ground like that but if the Strapping ( seen as a girt in CA X13 ) is in the Wall definition and the longest length is 12' in the buy List and is the Priority length ( above 8+10' pcs ) it will report automatically it looks like. * pretty sad they are still using X3 Videos..... Mick MHD_Sample-MaterialListIssue.plan

In my Case A:/ is also a NVME Drive ( Patriot Viper) which I use for My Docs ( now 230GB on it's own),plus my Chief Downloads and backups now. Originally I did it as C:\ was too small, so I used win10s ability to move system folders/Libraries off the original smaller 500GB C:\ , but found it helped when a bad win10 update failed and I had to reinstall Win10, I just pointed My Docs back to A:\ and everything was there again, no lost Data. At one Point I didn't have Chief installed on C:/ either but I found library updates didn't always work properly and a fe other strange issues so ended up moving Chief back to C:\ M.

Chief is not a good product for designing/modelling Freeform / Organic shapes i.e. the Rocks unfortunately..... The pool etc no problems M.

That's not how Chief's Library Works it is not a collection of True 3D Items just an Image/Material to apply to a Ceiling, so you'd need to make those yourself, though I think someone posted a True Suspended Ceiling Library at one point....

Just use the Frame 3 1/2 walltype , copy the definition and make it 1 1/2 thick instead.... and add a layer of Black behind if you need it... Try this.....MHD_Slat Wall Wall Type.calibz The Framing on Building will follow whatever the current Framing is for top and Bottom Plates so you may need to alter that to get the exact look you need. Mick.

There are always backups in the Archive Folder , inside the Chief Data Folder which is usually in My Documents unless you specified it to be put somewhere else. With X13 I also Lowered my Autosave time , but you can also set an Auto Archive down lower as well.

I agree , If it's new see if you can exchange it for something with a dedicated nvidia graphics card with at least 4GB of RAM ( on the video card) M.

The 5700XT is only about the equivalent of a 2070 Super ( same as my laptop) or perhaps a 2080 Nvidia card , so you won't get the Performance of a 3000 Nvidia series or the AMD 6000 Series but I am not sure if they are in iMAC's yet? I am not sure chief will use ever 16GB of VRAM though so it may not be worth the Upgrade , when is apple releasing the new 2021/2022 Version? M.

Chief sure comes up with some weird Defaults ....when is a Cantilever a ceiling ? and why would it be a Zero thickness paint layer ? ( which ALWAYS shows Z-fighting in 3D ) it only took what 10 yrs? to get a Polyline solid default that didn't use the Foundation material by default, so don't hold your breathe Mark AMEN to that...... Exactly.... M.

Okay.......

typically this happens only when the program doesn't close cleanly as it should "clean up" after each session on it own but is also one reason I specify my Own Temp and Undo Folders as well, and clean them out myself when Chief is closed if needed. M.

Which something? don't be shy now , if I'm not sure, how will Dermot know either? M.

You can specify thru Preferences where you Data Folder is stored as well if needed , which is normally in My Documents but doesn't need to be , moving it is one way to get Chief Files out off Dropbox. As you can see I also specify the Temp and Undo folders myself onto my fastest Drive (NVME) Also see the second part of this KB article..... https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-00348/changing-the-installation-location.html Moving Windows 10/11 Library Locations , My Docs , Pictures etc is also relatively painless... https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/74952-move-location-documents-folder-windows-10-a.html https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/74942-move-location-pictures-folder-windows-10-a.html https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/74955-move-location-videos-folder-windows-10-a.html KB

It appears perhaps that My Documents is actually in Dropbox, not on on your Physical HDD ( NVME) similar to how iCloud works on a Mac. I think when you installed Dropbox you agreed to the Dropbox install defaults which Includes Folders like My Documents, Pictures, Music, Videos etc, which is not ideal and can cause Issues with Chief trying to update Files etc that DB is syncing.

Some symbols are set to insert automatically into a Cabinet as mentioned and you'll find if you drop them in a room instead that the 3D may not match the 2D, but Chief will warn you usually with this error message Open the Symbol and look for the the Y Origin Offset Option, it will be is something like 23" , set all 3 to zero if not already and close the DBX again, You can then Use the CTRL Key to slide it into an opening and then adjust the Height off the floor ( Open Icon) if needed. Mick.

Getting a pre-built is still the best way currently to get a 3000 Series Video Card, (ABS is a Newegg Subsidiary) especially if your system is more than 3-4 yrs old.... The 610 GT will not run X13 except maybe in Plan View, as you need Shader Model 6 and a DirectX 12 feature called "Extended formats TypedUAVLoad" and so you need a card in the 900 Series or Up, on a side note Nvidia also has dropped support of Kepler based cards as of last month, so there won't be any new Drivers for the 600 and 700 Series Cards either going forward. ( not that big a deal ) Mick.