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Putting Door In Interior Short Wall Not Working.

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Hello, I built an interior short wall in a room and I tried to install a door in the wall but Chief just cut an opening in the wall instead. The ceiling hieght is 10'-10" but the shorter wall is 8' feet high not all the way to the ceiling. I need to put doors into the shorter walls. Any suggestions.

 

 

Thanks 

 

Vinnie

 

Using X8

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Vinnie,

 

By short wall, do you mean Chief's Half Wall?

If so, this is a railing in which you cannot place doors (with wall over).

If you want doors in a railing, draw them as ordinary walls, place the doors, and then convert to railings - the doors will stick.

BUT, the doors won't have any wall over them.

 

So...if you want doors with wall over in a wall shorter than the ceiling, use ordinary walls and change the wall height by dragging or dimensions in a 3D view. 

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Thanks, yes it is Chiefs half wall. I'll do what you suggest. I appreciate the tip.

Vinnie

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Hi Glen, I was able to make the wall as you suggest but I can't fill in the wall over door. There's no wall over the door. Can you help explain that pert to me. I appreciate your help.

 

Thanks Glen

 

Vinnie

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innie - can you post a picture, or better yet the plan?  Sounds like there is something else going on.

IF your default ceiling height is 120 and your short wall is 96 then the door should be no problem.

See attached.

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Just wondering if the issue is that the wall height is less than the door height plus the header/framing height total. Never done this but if the wall height is only say 84", would Chief still automatically insert a standard 80" door into the wall? Vinnie you mention that the wall will not fill in above the door, maybe it's height needs to be inreased a bit or door height reduced or the framing reduced.

 

Graham

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Your problem is that you're using a railing wall.  I would probably do one of 2 things...

 

1.  As someone else mentioned above, use normal walls and simply select the walls in elevation and drag them down.

2.  Use a pony wall with a shorter normal wall on the bottom and a zero thickness wall on top using "Opening (no material)"

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Hi Mike thanks for helping me out on this, I'll try that and give an update.

 

Vinnie.

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Your problem is that you're using a railing wall.  I would probably do one of 2 things...

 

1.  As someone else mentioned above, use normal walls and simply select the walls in elevation and drag them down.

2.  Use a pony wall with a shorter normal wall on the bottom and a zero thickness wall on top using "Opening (no material)"

Thanks Glen it worked.  

 

Vinnie

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RESOLVED.Screen Shot 2017-03-04 at 4.59.09 PM.png

When I tried dragging down the height of the wall it took down the height of the ceiling affecting other walls.

 

But I did 'solve' it.

 

note the existing ceiling height.

 

Define a ceiling pane only over the wall you wish to lower.  

 

Set the slope to 1/16 and lock it. (That was the lowest i was permitted)  Lock the slope and enter the desired absolute height.

So far you get a hole in the original ceiling, a lowered wall with an ugly section of ceiling above it.

 

First fix the hole:

Copy your ceiling pane and paste it in place.   Choose one of them and set the ceiling height to that of the original.  That plugs the hole.

 

In a floor view, select the ugly ceiling pane over your lowered partition.  Choose material and select insulation- air gap.

The smaller the section the better as the ceiling does not perfectly get patched because of the slight slope.

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To bad you don't have X9 with the new shelf ceiling tool.

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