Joe_Carrick Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) What is actually done by Print Preview In a Layout ? In a Plan ? Does it really do anything other than turning the display on and off in the Print Dialog? Edited June 27 by Joe_Carrick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Does absolutely nothing. I wish it would work like a pdf in Acrobat where ctrl 0, displays actual size where you can use a ruler on your monitor and it’s to scale. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 As far as I can tell, it mostly just turns on line weights and the drawing sheet. If these are already on, then it won't look very different. It can also turn off the display of things that are not going to print, such as temporary cad points and active cameras. It may also turn color on/off depending on your printer settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted June 27 Author Share Posted June 27 15 minutes ago, DBCooper said: As far as I can tell, it mostly just turns on line weights and the drawing sheet. If these are already on, then it won't look very different. It can also turn off the display of things that are not going to print, such as temporary cad points and active cameras. It may also turn color on/off depending on your printer settings. IOW, pretty useless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted June 28 Author Share Posted June 28 So the only way to really do a "Real Print Peview" is by starting the "Print Tool" (hotkey Ctrl+Q,P) and clicking on the "Update" button. I really wish CA would give us this functionality in a single tool. It's the only way Iknow to insure all macros get executed from all referenced plans and schedules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 So is the only difference you can see between the print preview in a plan view and the preview in the print dialog is whether or not your macros work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted June 28 Author Share Posted June 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, DBCooper said: So is the only difference you can see between the print preview in a plan view and the preview in the print dialog is whether or not your macros work? No, the print preview seems to only effect 3D graphics and maybe line weights. It seems to skip anything that relates to text related objects such as labels and schedules. The preview in the print dialog takes considerably longer, obviously doing a complete update of each page. In reality, most of my macros execute when I open a Layout. The exceptions are: any macros in a secondary plan file I'm able to get those to execute if I send the view to my default layout template - which I essentially reduce to a size that can be "behind a filled rectangle" so it won't print but is still not hidden to the software. Or displaying the page that has that plan. schedules that reference 2 different objects and provide calculated fields The only way to get these to execute is to open the actual view and either open the schedule object or the schedule and then close it. Basically the print dialog "Update" provides that for all pages. Edited June 28 by Joe_Carrick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted Monday at 04:28 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:28 PM 23 hours ago, DBCooper said: So is the only difference you can see between the print preview in a plan view and the preview in the print dialog is whether or not your macros work? Do you realize if you have a command called "print preview" then it should show exactly what the printed document would look like? Otherwise call it "more or less approximate print preview maybe" Then that would be genuine. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted Monday at 06:10 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:10 PM (edited) Do you realize that snarky comments don't actually help anyone? While I agree with you on what a print preview is supposed to do, I haven't ever really noticed any differences between the print preview on the screen and what I actually got when I printed it. I was mostly curious if it was just a problem with Joe's macros (which I don't use) or if there was something I needed to pay more attention to. Edited Monday at 06:11 PM by DBCooper 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted Monday at 06:43 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:43 PM I didn’t know the D in your initial was for downvote. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted Monday at 06:45 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:45 PM I didn't down vote you. Please don't make accusations about me without any evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted Monday at 08:00 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:00 PM Print Preview. It does not preview any print. Either I'm taking crazy pills or certain folks/fanboys here protect Chief at all cost. It's their team. they can do no wrong. If printing to PDF was a snappy process I wouldn't mind. I would just print and no big deal, but as you all know printing to pdf is slow as molasses. So it would be nice to have a print preview. I guess I'm overly demanding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanK Posted Monday at 10:03 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:03 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael_Gia said: ...but as you all know printing to pdf is slow as molasses. I don't know... What about printing to PDF is slow as molasses? We print to PDF on all our plans we send to customers for review. Edited Monday at 10:05 PM by JonathanK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHampton Posted Tuesday at 12:07 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:07 AM Print Preview is still a handy feature for those who send plan files directly to a printer. For PDF output, though, it's also useful to see exactly what's in the print queue before committing to the export. As for PDF speed, that often depends on how much linework is being generated and whether "live" camera views have been sent to Layout. For example, a hatched fill at a 45° angle with a tight pattern can dramatically increase the PDF file size. The same is true for live camera views. In many cases, it's more efficient to send image files to Layout instead. Just my two cents. That's been my experience for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para-CAD Posted Thursday at 02:41 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:41 PM I happen to enjoy snarky humor because when there’s an issue, sometimes the best thing is just to laugh at it, people. Anyone on here who’s overly serious needs to find something else to do in life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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