HumbleChief Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Kinda dumb question but what does the symbol at the cursor shown in the vid mean? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericepv Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Clothes hangers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, ericepv said: Clothes hangers. Meant to say the symbol at the cursor...seems to be connected with the symbol somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution DBCooper Posted March 19 Solution Share Posted March 19 Replace from library. Basically, when you hover over something and you get that cursor, it means that you can replace the existing thing with the new thing from the library. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 1 minute ago, DBCooper said: Replace from library. Cool, thanks, and now see the tool in the tool bar, and also see that it's probably a tool I'll never use. Wonder why this symbol from the library comes with this tool attached? Thank You again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaTime Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 15 minutes ago, HumbleChief said: Wonder why this symbol from the library comes with this tool attached? It only appears when its enabled to. 18 minutes ago, HumbleChief said: it's probably a tool I'll never use It's pretty handy, it has scopes so you can mass-replace things. But I don't think it is by default, so I'm not sure why or how it surprised you like this, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, TeaTime said: It only appears when its enabled to. It's pretty handy, it has scopes so you can mass-replace things. But I don't think it is by default, so I'm not sure why or how it surprised you like this, Thanks Tea, Never seen the tool, never used the tool, and it might come in handy but I can see, at least on my machine today, that whenever I select this particular item from the library (haven't seen it with any others) that the 'replace from library' tool is indeed selected by default. I then turn it off and select the symbol again and the 'replace from library' is toggled back on again. Not a genuine problem but doesn't seem to be consistent between library items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 It can be super useful so you might actually be missing out. Where it is really useful is not just replacing whole objects but when using it to replace sub-objects. For example, changing cabinet door styles. While in a camera view, find the door style you want in the library browser, and then in the edit toolbar click on the "plan mode" button and then just click on the cabinet door you want to change. Bam, all the cabinet doors in the plan will change to the new style. Want to change the handle or knob, you can do the same thing. Stair and railing balusters can be changed the same way without ever having to open a dialog box. Lots of other stuff works too. So in your video above, if you designed your closet with shelves that all had the hangers and you wanted to replace them with shelves that didn't, you could just select the new one in the library and use the replace tool to swap them out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 1 minute ago, DBCooper said: It can be super useful so you might actually be missing out. For example, changing cabinet door styles. While in a camera view, find the door style you want in the library browser, and then in the edit toolbar click on the "plan mode" button and then just click on the cabinet door you want to change. Bam, all the cabinet doors in the plan will change to the new style. Want to change the handle or knob, you can do the same thing. Stair and railing balusters can be changed the same way without ever having to open a dialog box. So in your video above, if you designed your closet with shelves that all had the hangers and you wanted to replace them with shelves that didn't, you could just select the new one in the library and use the replace tool to swap them out. Thanks DB. Might indeed be useful but have never wanted to do any of the tasks you listed. If I do I'll remember this post and this feature - cause I hate to miss out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 So do you only use the out-of-the-box defaults for all your style settings? Or, do you use some other method of changing the styles? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, DBCooper said: So do you only use the out-of-the-box defaults for all your style settings? Or, do you use some other method of changing the styles? My work flow and scope of work relative to my designs are clearly set from the beginning of any job. For example I'll design a kitchen with the clear understanding that the (default cabs in Chief) cabinets are there as place holders only, as I do not design kitchen cabinets as part of my services. Nor do I spec any paint colors, appliances, tile and/or counter finishes as those choices are left to the client and, if they choose, an interior designer which I will coordinate with on very rare occasions. My 'styles', if you will, have been developed over many years and I now have a set of defaults for many applications that I use as needed, all living in my template plans so very little need to change any 'style' as I design. I've posted many time how each of our business models and design work flows vary and I understand any work flow or business model that includes designing everything from cabinet pulls to tile colors, counter top choices and even colors for the walls but for me I'd rather not, and to be honest, want no part of those decisions as I've been there and do not want to go there again. Also DB I meant it when I said I'll remember this thread and your post (and Tea's) regarding how 'replace from library' works and if the need arises I will gratefully remember your advice. Thank you again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Got it. One person's "essential feature" is another's "never used" one because we all use the program a bit differently. I guess it really only matters when someone is doing it the hard way just because they don't know any better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaTime Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, HumbleChief said: that whenever I select this particular item from the library (haven't seen it with any others) that the 'replace from library' tool is indeed selected by default. Huh. Yeah you got me on that one. I'm not sure how that setting would get stuck for just that one object. I messed with it a bit but can't get it to stick for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHampton Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, DBCooper said: While in a camera view, find the door style you want in the library browser, and then in the edit toolbar click on the "plan mode" button and then just click on the cabinet door you want to change. Bam, all the cabinet doors in the plan will change to the new style. Man... Never knew this until today. All the more reason to visit the forum on a regular basis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Quote Never seen the tool, never used the tool, and it might come in handy but I can see, at least on my machine today, that whenever I select this particular item from the library (haven't seen it with any others) that the 'replace from library' tool is indeed selected by default. I then turn it off and select the symbol again and the 'replace from library' is toggled back on again. Not a genuine problem but doesn't seem to be consistent between library items. I think this depends on the type of library item. As far as I can tell, it is on by default for some things, like cabinet door styles and hardware, and off for other things, like fixtures and furniture. I am guessing that the two shelf symbols you are using are actually different symbol types. Regardless, you can always toggle it on or off if you want but if you select a new library object it looks like it will reset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 As a follow up I tried this 'feature' and I'm sure it works brilliantly but as the video below shows, I'm simply not smart enough nor willing to invest the needed time to get these 'features' to work properly and my brain just does not get the paradigm that Chief presents around every corner. If, and that's a big IF, I need to learn this feature I will but in the mean time it's too easy for me to use the tools I know which don't always represent the hard way to do things versus using Chief's 'features'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 You're doing it wrong. Watch this video: https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/1598/using-the-library-painter.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 4 minutes ago, DBCooper said: You're doing it wrong. Watch this video: https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/1598/using-the-library-painter.html Of course I'm doing it wrong - THANK YOU!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 BTW, I'm not trying to suggest that you were not smart by doing it wrong and I totally get why you tried to do it wrong, but once you learn the "Chief" way, I think you will realize the tool is actually pretty slick and could save a lot of time. Anytime I can do things without having to open up a dialog and dig down multiple levels (especially with the cabinet dialog), I think I am just a little bit happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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