Cadwork22 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I created a gable porch; however, the porch ceiling extends below, does anyone know how to delete this segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tundra_dweller Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 It looks to me like your shed-style porch roof plane is continuous across the front and the gable roof is built on top of it. What I would probably do is copy-paste in place the shed roof plane, pull one end of the shed roof plane across until the corner of its fascia meets the lower corner of the fascia on one of your gable roof planes, then use the "join roof planes" tool to merge the gable roof plane with your newly edited shed roof plane. Repeat this procedure with the other copy of the shed roof plane for the opposite side of the gable roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericepv Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Looks like you need to create a manual break in the lower roof at each end of the gable and drag it to the shape you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_N Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Would you have a gable at the exterior wall edge? If so you can use a gable line over the entrance wall area, assuming that you have auto rebuild roof enabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_N Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 If you post the plan file one of us will more than likely post a fix for the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadwork22 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Doug the plan file is double the limit that I can post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cadwork22 said: Doug the plan file is double the limit that I can post. You can zip the file...or create an example plan and post that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadwork22 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Thanks, I've been working on the draft so it's a little different then the image above. planfile.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 @Cadwork22 Here you go; Kinzler1 - fixed.plan.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadwork22 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Thank you! If you have time, can you tell me what you did to the porch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Cadwork22 said: Thank you! If you have time, can you tell me what you did to the porch? There's just too many steps to just write it down. If I get time I'll make you a short video...no promises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadwork22 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 no problem appreciate the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Doug_N Posted March 15, 2023 Solution Share Posted March 15, 2023 Very similar to Steve's solution. I did this before I noticed that Steve had fixed it. I copied down all the roof pitches, turned on autorebuild roofs, then worked my way around the building adjusting pitches, gable and hip roof settings. I had to fix some ceiling heights and then created the gable for the entrance using a gable wall line. Disabled auto roof build and then adjusted the gable. Kinzler Roof Problem.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadwork22 Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 Thanks everyone for the help on this. One question, how do you draw roof lines at an angle, in contract to the box roof plane provides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneDavis Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Every manually drawn roof plane is born a rectangle. You edit them to the shapes needed. You use the join tool when editing to make ridges, hips, and valleys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadwork22 Posted March 18, 2023 Author Share Posted March 18, 2023 Great Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadwork22 Posted March 18, 2023 Author Share Posted March 18, 2023 I got an update on the plan and they wanted the front wall out another 8'. So, I had to move the roof plane/porch you created out 8' as well. Everything looks good except the gable goes through ceiling in the front bedroom. I tried messing with the pitch and top height and that didn't work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneDavis Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Maybe pay a pro to do this for you, and include those charges when you bill the client who keeps moving things around. I opened Steve's "fixed" file, selected the porch roofs and those for the gable, moved them out 8' using transfer>move, and edited the roofs to join. The walls were locked so I did not bother with them to move the post/beam walls out, but the gable truss was not locked so I moved it out too. I suggest you engage with a truss engineer to see how this best gets framed. Where I do work there are limits on truss lengths and heights due to transport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneDavis Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Digging into this just a tad more, I see your ceiling heights for the living side of this project is at 11 feet, which seems a weird choice. Why not 10 feet, which results in a far more efficient use of framing lumber, and sheetrock? And your exterior wall build seems questionable. You show two framing layers one 4 inch one 10 inch. Are you planning to double-frame for doing high-R insulation? Your heel heights over the exterior walls at rear don't look right for someone who is doing ultra thick walls for energy. What kind of R for ceiling are you looking for? Is blown cellulose the plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadwork22 Posted March 19, 2023 Author Share Posted March 19, 2023 thanks, appreciate everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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