X13 cabinet label rotation?


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I see that cabinet labels still don't rotate around like a text box for some reason, unless I'm missing a setting?

 

I did however figure out that I can essentially rotate a label 180 degrees by changing the angle to .00001 (maybe smaller, haven't tested how far I can go).  If I use 0 or 180, the label faces the same direction.  I don't know why they have they label flip over instead of just rotating 360 degrees like everything else in the program, it appears this is a function of plan rotation or something similar?

 

I am happy with the alignment options they added though, that's a time saver.

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Scott,

I think he wants to rotate the label another 90deg (180deg in total) so that it is upside down.

Why, I don't know.

 

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I need to show labels upside down at times on floor plans, like the one on the right.  The native cabinet label does not allow for this as far as I can tell and I don't know why.  So as a work around I have to make a manual label using text and then place it where I need it.  It would save me a bit of time if I could just rotate the label in any direction like you can with a text box.

If the cabinet is facing left to right I can do it using a really small angle, but not if the cabinet if facing an up or down direction as shown in the picture.

 

why, this is just a preference thing for some designers.

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12 hours ago, scottharris said:

You can rotate a single label.  Maybe you are looking for a tool to rotate all labels at once?

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@scottharris Showed you how...  But it is a one at a time thing.  You can use a simple macro placed in each cabinet instead of typing out the code yourself.  You can save that to your user library and place it on top of each cabinet in whatever direction you want it to be.

 

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I realize there is a grab handle and a place to type in the rotation angle but if you try it, the label flips back over so that the text is not upside down on the screen.  I want it to be upside down.  Am I crazy or can everyone else but me rotate labels without them flipping back to a different orientation on their own once you reach a certain rotation limit?

 

Scott's example shows an up/ down oriented cabinet with right side facing label, that works fine, but it does not represent what I'm trying to do.  Also, if you try and rotate the label 180 degrees from the position Scott has it in, using the grab handle, it will flip back over.  I'll mess with a macro, but I don't think that will override the limitations of the label.

 

I'll call chief again to try once more and get an explanation as to why these labels behave the way they do.

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10 minutes ago, glennw said:

I am still curious to know under what circumstances you would want the label to be upside down?


I sense that it’s less of a circumstantial thing and more of a personal preference.  Some people just prefer the label to rotate with the object.

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Seriously?

Would you ever do the same thing with dimensions (although we can do that with dimensions)?

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4 minutes ago, glennw said:

Seriously?

Would you ever do the same thing with dimensions (although we can do that with dimensions)?


No, but I wouldn’t do it with my cabinet labels either. I CAN however see why a person might like it for labels. Its clean, consistent, and conveys a sense of functional orientation.

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It reminds me of the time I went to see a specialist doctor.

I was sitting across the table from hime and he was explaining some things to me and was writing notes and instructions upside down (facing me).

Very impressive and a great talent! 

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The owner has been doing hand drawn floor plans for 40 years and I think just always rotated the paper plan to orient the label to face the front of the cabinet.  So that's where it comes from.  The plans are generally sent to the client in PDF these days, but he always prints them to use at in person meetings so I produce for him what he is used to and basically whatever he wants.  The other designers are his kids and so they do they same thing.  Its not always great to look at on a screen but it works on paper where you can quickly and easily orient it to your liking.  In the end I mainly duplicate what they draw by hand for the floor plan, they get exactly what they are used to seeing and they are happy.  It makes no difference to me what they prefer for details.

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