keithhe Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 I think I am Jim. I found the "Plot Plan 2" layer, but nothing except the house footprint shows up under any of the layer sets?? I don't have a CAD Details Layer or a "Site Plan" layer, but checked the plot plan, footprint etc.. I must still be missing something here. OK, just found it. Wow, I really still suck at this program.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Cad Details are found here: CAD/CAD Detail Management/Site Plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithhe Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Thanks Jim, Richard and all the rest of you guys !!! This works fine, but I'm hell bent on seeing if there is some mathematical, geometry method to this equation. I think there might be, but I'm one of those people that will die trying to figure something out... Thanks again all !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_Morrison Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Keith, Note that the footprint polyline is set to "CAD stops move." When you get the angle of the building rotated to match the PDF, the setback line "fences" that Jim drew will stop the footprint at the exact location. Trying to figure out a mathematical way to calculate a surveyor's very human approximation isn't going to happen in a useful way. Either the left or the right setback is ALWAYS going to be off. You get to choose which approximate dimension is correct, or you can just put the house somewhere in between and it may be off by a little over an inch. You aren't building to rocket ship tolerances here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I forgot to "save in plan" I just love it when that happens Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithhe Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Thanks Richard, and noted. Just always looking at methods to solve any problem. This is just a side project now, as you folks helped get as close as I would ever need for normal purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 A lot easier than I initially thought. First find distance from front left corner to back right where bay touches the line. This is your hypotenuse. Find ANGLE 1 of hypotenuse relative to verticle lines, you know the hypotenuse and the distance between vertical lines easy peasy Find ANGLE 2 of hypotenuse relative to back wall of house, you know the hypotenuse and you know width of house easy peasy Add ANGLE 1 to ANGLE 2 subtract from 90 degrees, you now have the angle of side of house relative to vertical lines. Once you know angle of house relative to the property line, the rest is easy. Hypotenuse, very good my son. You know what a freaking mess I would do with this word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Hypotenuse, very good my son. You know what a freaking mess I would do with this word. LOL, you know what, I would too, but I had auto spell on so it fixed it every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithhe Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Wishing now I had not slept through the hipopotonuse part in school. Educabation is a good thing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Educabation gee wiz, I'm having a field day. Just glad someone else is posting this Educabation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_Morrison Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Educabation is a good thing..... And it grows hair on your head. (GD&R.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithhe Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Well, The OCD in me would not leave this alone. I'm not quite there yet but with 2 of three points attached, I'm within 1/4 inch of the last point. Not close enough, I know, but working on it.... Simply drew the boundary, with setback known. Blocked that. Then from the drawing of the house, I used the brick corners as I suspect surveyor would have and paced CAD points on the three points. Connected points with CAD lines and copy/paste into the CAD Detail with property boundaries. Then a little rotate and point to point moves and two of three there, third point 1/4 inch out. I'm shooting for 1/8 inch, or less then I can sleep nights... See attached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_Morrison Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Look, the surveyor is dimensioning to the nearest 1/10th of a foot. That means that the dimension theoretically can be only accurate to plus/minus 1/20th of a foot (5/8"), assuming that the surveyor is capable of measuring absolutely PRECISELY. (Which is unlikely.) You are now in the land of officially fooling yourself regarding possible dimensional accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithhe Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Richard, This has absolutely nothing to do with the legal aspects of the drawing, in any way. This is simply now, as I already had it as close as would ever need to be with help from the gallery here, an exercise in methods to solve a problem. I, like others here, thought there was not enough information given, but given just what was provided, it can be done quite accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I'm also the type of person who has to know the "right" way to do these things mathematically. Unless the house dimensions AND lot dimensions are VERY NEAR PERFECT its not actually possible to mathematically place the house any better than "close". You really need at least one absolute point and you have none of those. At best you can assume the measurements from the house corners were taken at 90 degrees from the lot lines but even that is questionable I would personally draw circles from the 3 corners of the house and rotate the lot till all 3 points touched. Then maybe copy and offset the lot lines to make sure it was really close that way. If there was any discrepancy after checking with the offsets I would break the difference and call it good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithhe Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Michael, I tried that approach early on too. I like using radius circles from multiple points to find absolute intersections of otherwise hard to find spots. That did not work for me, in this case, but will test it once I have thee points in and house the way I think it is supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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