GinaMc

Help Needed: Cathedral Ceiling Issues

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Hello! I'm new to CA and this kitchen ceiling is KILLING ME! I have tried and tried to open up the end of this room as a cathedral ceiling with a gable end, but flat 8' ceilings over the kitchen area, and I'm not getting the point where it connects to work out right.  Sometimes the wall is there, but I can see the roof trusses, sometimes (like now) there's no wall section there and it's just open.  Now I'm getting this weird wall on the gable end out of nowhere.  Help!!!

 

And yes, I know there's probably a very simple solution and I'm making this WAY harder than I need to. LOL  

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Is the kitchen a room, or is the entire space a single room?

 

The space needs to be divided where you want the ceiling change.

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It's one room, but the far end is like a sun room.  I have tried to do that! I think this is first a roof issue. :(

 

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Gina, what should the pitch be over the kit? Flat?

What should the pitch be over the BRKFST Room be? 4/12?

 

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You may have roof issues too, but dividing the space with a Room Divider, and telling the program you want a ceiling in the kitchen seems to work.

 

And just delete the walls you don't want.

 

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OK. Eric, your drawing looks perfect. :) However, I want to get the roof thing figured out so I can know how to do it.  I'm thinking I should delete my current roof and start over...   Thoughts?

 

Cheryl, it's probably more like a 9/12 or 10/12.  

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If you haven't noticed, I'm new and I am just learning how to do things. I don't have the actual pitch of the room.

 

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Gina, I just deleted exterior walls to get a clear view of what was happening in the plan. You can go in and look at the DBX for the walls that are left. You'll want to change the pitch in the Roof DBX. Please note that I added 'Ceiling Planes' at 4/12.  You may want a different pitch there, too. In the case of ceiling planes, click on each and change it individually. They are shown as dashed lines in pink. HTH

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I went back in and divided the room using the Room Divider tool.  After I chose "Flat roof over this room" for the main kitchen area, it fixes the rise between the spaces, but I still have this weird triangular wall by the windows.

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4 minutes ago, GinaMc said:

If you haven't noticed, I'm new and I am just learning how to do things. I don't have the actual pitch of the room.

 

Welcome aboard! You'll have the hang of things in no time. Remember to post here when you've tried all that you know to do. The F1 key is your new best friend, and there is very often someone here that will assist nearly 24/7 thanks to our Australian & New Zeland friends.

 

Nice Kit, BTW

 

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1 minute ago, GinaMc said:

but I still have this weird triangular wall by the windows.

 

31 minutes ago, solver said:

And just delete the walls you don't want.

 

 

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1 minute ago, GinaMc said:

I went back in and divided the room using the Room Divider tool.  After I chose "Flat roof over this room" for the main kitchen area, it fixes the rise between the spaces, but I still have this weird triangular wall by the windows.

 

Gina, Open the exterior walls on the plan that I sent back and study the dialog boxes.

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Cheryl, I'm on X11. Did you make the changes in 12? I cannot open it.

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Yep, CA X12. Sorry

 

When you have a chance please add a signature to your settings including the CA version & what your hardware is all about so we know what ver you have. 

 

Just an FYI: the triangle thing was an old attic wall I suspect. I erased all that stuff and placed a new attic wall on the 'Attic" level above the Window Wall. I made sure that the 'Attic Wall' dbx was checked and that the new wall was directly over the wall that you had drawn. 

 

Wishing you the very best, I have to go all the way to my kitchen now, but I'll be back tomorrow.

I'm sure that someone else that has Ver X11 loaded will be able to assist as well. 

 

Eric is a GEM! 

 

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Try this file it might be what you want if you want the roof fixed you need to show what is required you may have some plans or photo to help explain

Shire_copy.plan

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18 hours ago, GinaMc said:

Hello! I'm new to CA and this kitchen ceiling is KILLING ME! I have tried and tried to open up the end of this room as a cathedral ceiling with a gable end, but flat 8' ceilings over the kitchen area, and I'm not getting the point where it connects to work out right.  Sometimes the wall is there, but I can see the roof trusses, sometimes (like now) there's no wall section there and it's just open.  Now I'm getting this weird wall on the gable end out of nowhere.  Help!!!

 

And yes, I know there's probably a very simple solution and I'm making this WAY harder than I need to. LOL  

Shire Kitchen.plan.zip

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I used your plan to make a training video...hope you don't mind.  Check it out...
 

 

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LOL, Steve! I would be embarrassed if I weren't so grateful! Ha! Oh wow, yeah...I had some serious issues.

 

I did take this opportunity to upgrade to 12, BTW.

 

I really, really appreciate everyone's help! My goal is to go front-back on the online training videos, but right now I'm just trying to get out projects...cobbled together as they are.

 

Thanks, CA community! <3

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2 minutes ago, GinaMc said:

LOL, Steve! I would be embarrassed if I weren't so grateful! Ha! Oh wow, yeah...I had some serious issues.

 

I did take this opportunity to upgrade to 12, BTW.

 

I really, really appreciate everyone's help! My goal is to go front-back on the online training videos, but right now I'm just trying to get out projects...cobbled together as they are.

 

Thanks, CA community! <3

 

Glad to help...and yes, Chief Talk and the experts on this Forum is how I learned.  Hope you subscribe to my channel...lots of videos.

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58 minutes ago, SNestor said:

 

I used your plan to make a training video...hope you don't mind.  Check it out...
 

 

GREAT video Steve. Always learn something and am also blown away by the complexity of Chief. Thanks. 

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51 minutes ago, GinaMc said:

LOL, Steve! I would be embarrassed if I weren't so grateful! Ha! Oh wow, yeah...I had some serious issues.

 

I did take this opportunity to upgrade to 12, BTW.

 

I really, really appreciate everyone's help! My goal is to go front-back on the online training videos, but right now I'm just trying to get out projects...cobbled together as they are.

 

Thanks, CA community! <3

 

Gina, don't forget us the next time you hit a brick wall layer!

 

Most of us have made our living with CA and we really appreciate the staff in Couer d'Alene working to make the program at max utility and min frustration. But, it's a H U G E feature-rich program! With that, there is a learning curve that comes with using it productively. You are on your way to doing great work with this tool.

 

As soon as you have time, load in your signature here so that it will be on board. Be sure to check out the posts regularly here and in the Gallery section, and before you know it you'll be assisting someone else (maybe me) who is struggling to get something out the door. 

 

All the best, ~Cheryl

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1 hour ago, SNestor said:

Hope you subscribe to my channel

Thank you for throwing out that reminder Steve! 
I need to do that with all you guys who have YouTube channels... 

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5 minutes ago, DzinEye said:

Thank you for throwing out that reminder Steve! 
I need to do that with all you guys who have YouTube channels... 

Please do, I like Steve's videos, pleasant speaking voice...his wall fill however, gives me an aneurysm, haha. Maybe when I am "Over 60"

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