4hotshoez Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 How can I make a cooktop modeled in Sketchup or primitives automatically snap to a base cabinet and cut a hole in the counter like a sink does? Chief does recognize other library parts this way, Is it in the way I import a model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 In the symbol options, when you create it, there are options for inserting into cabinet top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Also, after it's in the Library, Right_Click and open the Symbol dbx. You to change the settings.for the behavior there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 Ok, it will insert, but how do I get it to sit into the cut opening that was created and can I reduce the hole slightly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I have noticed some sinks need to have their "origin" changed in the symbol DBX to sit correctly. you need to select the countertop hole and adjust it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 I have noticed some sinks need to have their "origin" changed in the symbol DBX to sit correctly. you need to select the countertop hole and adjust it. How would I change the origin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Ok, it will insert, but how do I get it to sit into the cut opening that was created and can I reduce the hole slightly? Todd, Adjust the z-origin value in the 3D Tab of the Symbol dbx to move it up or down. There is also a set of values for sizing that should adjust the hole size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 Todd, Adjust the z-origin value in the 3D Tab of the Symbol dbx to move it up or down. There is also a set of values for sizing that should adjust the hole size. Thanks that worked, but how do I get access to adjust the counter top? After lowering the cooktop the cut hole is now a triangle rather than a rectangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Thanks that worked, but how do I get access to adjust the counter top? After lowering the cooktop the cut hole is now a triangle rather than a rectangle. Todd, Can you export your Symbol and post that file (calibz)? I will take a look and see what I can do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Another option would be to ignore "inserting into counter top" and just deal with the z-origin. Just set it down far enough that it still sits high enough to obscure the counter top. BTW, usually a symbol that is designed to insert into a counter top should have a rectangular solid just slightly larger than the object to act as an "Inserted Counter" and it should have a material designation of "Counter Top" so you can adjust the material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 It was from 3D Warehouse. I would like to learn the process to insert from there too. But the forum wont allow me to upload an SKP file CooktopGas36.calibz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 OK Todd, I added a Custom Counter Top to your Symbol (a full rectangle with a hole in it so the lower part of Cooktop around the burners would be recessed. Then I created a new symbol from it. You will note in the pic that the Counter Top of the new symbol is just a light beige. When you put it in a Cabinet you need to paint or edit that to match your Counter. CooktopGas-Todd's.calibz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneDavis Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 You can do it. Just takes some work. In this situation, the undermount farm sink 3D came from Kohler, and I edited the countertop hole to be right for the sink, per Kohler's installation instruction specs. The symbol's origin is set so it sits out proud of the front with the apron tight to the cab's faceframe, and underneath the 5cm countertop. That line you see across the top of the apron lip is the cabinet front telegraphing through the sink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 BTW Todd, This Symbol has almost 20,000 faces. That makes it what we commonly call a "PolyHog" and if you get too many of faces in a model it can slow down Pan & Zoom and maybe Ray Tracing as well. A few of these isn't too bad but just be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 So let me see if I understand what you did. You took my symbol and added a custom countertop and placed a hole for the cooktop, then made it a symbol together and now it should insert to a cabinet correctly? Then I will only need to change the color of the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 So let me see if I understand what you did. You took my symbol and added a custom countertop and placed a hole for the cooktop, then made it a symbol together and now it should insert to a cabinet correctly? Then I will only need to change the color of the top. That's correct. Insert into Countertop cuts a rectangular hole the same size as the Symbol. So if your symbol isn't a perfect rectangle, you need the Counter Top to be a part of the Symbol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 Awesome! It works great. Is there any reason it would not cut a hole properly the first time I inserted? BTW, how did you place the cooktop in a counter top? Did you create a counter top with a hole then move the cooktop into place? Was the counter height important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 Hold on, Joe, I must have something else going on. I just place the new cooktop you made into the same location the other one was and it still has a rouge triangle just as before. could it be a partial custom countertop that I may have tried to install yesterday? Chief - PintoElevations.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Todd, I'm not sure exactly what's going on but try this: 1. Move the hood out of the way 2. Create a custom counter top 3. Place the Cooktop 4. Move the hood back That seems to solve the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Ahhh...... The problem was that the cabinet was only 36" wide and the Cooktop was also 36" wide. By creating a long custom counter top the cooktop inserts into the wider counter just fine. You probably want to make the cabinet wider by a couple of inches if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 Not sure if moving the hood was the solution, but it worked to rebuild the countertop with custom. Thank you for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I agree, moving the Hood was just so I could see the Cooktop in Plan View. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Todd: most file types have to be zipped before uploading to the forum look at the upload dbx to see which do/don't Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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