mattradk Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 How do I eliminate the vertical lines between the two floors appearing in the orthographic view of the attached? As far as I can tell, the 2 stories are lined up and no framing has been built to show thru somehow. I have X5. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief16Designer Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Highlight wall click align with wall below or above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattradk Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Thanks. I had tried that before posting. The option isn't enabled in the menu so I assume the walls are aligned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief16Designer Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Turn on reference floor below display align with floor below will enabled only if walls are misalign a couple of inches if walls are to far off option isn't enabled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I have noticed sometimes those lines are there ,and they will disappear when you print to pdf, in which it prints to a higher resolution automatically.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 In an unedited Vector View camera, this is perfectly natural as a result. A standard render camera solves this optical effect or if you must have a vector view sent to layout, you can use the "Edit Layout Tool" to eliminate such lines or replace lines that might be missing in Vector Views sent to layout for printing. DJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I don't see that much these days, but back in X5-X6 it was more of an issue , and if it wasn't an alignment issue , usually it was bad Wall Polylines produced by the 3D Editor. Did you Build the Framing ? did it disappear? I seem to remember an issue with Framing at the Joist line back then causing anomalies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattradk Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 I built the framing at one point to see if a framing issue was the cause, but then eliminated framing from the view. The lines appeared where the platform for the second floor was, though. I printed the image to pdf and the lines disappeared as Drawzilla suggested they might. I'm trying to produce some images for a client to let him decide how he'd like the project to look. As long as printed pdfs eliminate extra lines, things should be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Did you delete the framing or just turn off viewing framing in that particular view? ( with display options) I don't see any framing in that view except the Porch roof posts/beam perhaps , so I am not sure why you would turn it off or delete the framing if you post the plan someone will try it for you , most have the latest version , but several members have many installed eg @DJP (David Potter) as he supports and helps people with all versions as part of his Business. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattradk Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 I deleted the framing with Edit>Delete Objects. There is also a line where the roof gable meets the top of the 2nd story wall. I didn't build any roof framing, so I'm not sure why the line is there. I moved each wall a couple of inches out of alignment and then realigned them as suggested by Chief16designer to be sure they were snapped into alignment. The lines are still there. I suspect it's the program's rendering at this point. I haven't used CA for 2 or 3 years, but I got asked to help out with a project. There are lots of things I've forgotten. I'm sure I'll have more questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I guess I wasn't clear .....I think it is possibly because you have NOT built all the framing yet.... in the view above you shouldn't see framing anyway , so there should be no reason to have to delete it, except as a test or to rebuild it if Auto build Framing is Off. Post the plan and I can tell you if it happens in X9....if you want.... M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattradk Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 OK, thanks ..... pls see the attached. Keep in mind I've just started this. Project Oak.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattradk Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 Ultimately, they'd like views superimposed on the surrounding landscape to use for fundraising and grant applications (it's in a mountain location). This type of view seemed most useful once fully developed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I was wondering why Ortho View too , I prefer Perspective myself but it is happening in that view too , but the Lines show only if you are zoomed out too far , which for what you mentioned above is an Issue. might be a good one to send to Tech Support , cos it isn't the Framing Issue I thought it was. There are alot of lines in that Siding on a building that large , and I think CA just can't handle the number of lines all generating on top of each other as you zoom out, i tried several different materials and it didn't matter. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Have you checked the wall layers in your wall definition - particularly your main layer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 14 hours ago, Kbird1 said: I don't see any framing in that view except the Porch roof posts/beam perhaps , so I am not sure why you would turn it off or delete the framing There are some reasons to turn off framing b/c Chief will not downsize a 2x12 hip in a 2x6 rafter system correctly and it will show through the ceiling., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattradk Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 My wall layers and makeup are identical, so I don't think there's a reason that thickness, etc. would cause a line. I turned the framing on because I was trying to clear some cobwebs from my 2-3 year disuse of the program, and then deleted the framing because I thought maybe it was bleeding through the siding and causing the lines. Someone else is doing the structural plans. I've only been asked to produce an outside view of what it will look like based on the plans and elevations. I've already been told that the building will change from what I have now. The structural forms in the view hanging out in space are just my trial and error to see how forms can be manipulated. The client wants a mountain-y look with peeled logs framing the entrance, but I'm waiting for the full plans and the elevations to see exactly what they have in mind. This includes what kind of siding, window type and placement, doors, roof, colors, etc. they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Its not anything that you are doing Matt as far as I can tell , I drew a quick building the same size in X9 with the standard siding-6 walls like you and it is doing the same thing, and if your turn Framing display on it looks even worse with the stud line as well as the siding lines showing, not sure why cos the Framing should not be seen through the siding in this exterior view . CA shouldn't even be trying to draw it.... M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattradk Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 Thanks for trying it with X9. I'm pretty sure the dimensions will change, and the client is now talking about a covered wrap-around porch so the changes may resolve the issue. This is to be a small hotel and, of course, there'll be windows, doors, a large fireplace, etc. Also, the lines don't show up if it's printed as a pdf, so that may help, too. The original photo I posted containing the extraneous lines was from printing the screen as a jpg. This is why I'm refreshing my skills now for when the client panics and wants something in 48 hours for a deadline for a grant application or loan from the local IDC that I wasn't told about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattradk Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 I take a look...... and I don't think the lines appear as much in the perspective overviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 54 minutes ago, solver said: I'll suggest you use perspective overviews instead of orthographic. Much better look. Orthographic looks to me like something that would have been done 25 years ago. 45 minutes ago, mattradk said: I take a look...... and I don't think the lines appear as much in the perspective overviews. I agree Ortho , always looks very dated to me.... , with a nice photo from the Lot you should be able to use Standard View with the Photo as a background i'd think. Good luck with it.... M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattradk Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 Thanks ..... you've all been very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Are you sure your main wall layer is set to the framing layer and not the external cladding layer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, glennw said: Are you sure your main wall layer is set to the framing layer and not the external cladding layer? I looked at that , even tried a brand new blank plan and got the same thing.... this is Matt's main walls ...siding 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattradk Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 Yes. Kbird1 duplicated the problem yesterday (Post 19). I posted the file above (Post 12) if you want to take a look at the file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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