ladycoralie Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Hello. Does anyone know how I can solve the problem of the wall going through the roof? Inside,The wall doesn't meet the ceiling properly either. The room structure is set to default. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. Thanks Guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlackore Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I suspect it's an attic wall issue. Turn the Walls, Attic layer to investigate. Posting the plan will get you a better answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Why don't you post the plan? You have been around enough to know that is what you need to do. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 follow Scott's lead for a fast answer on your problem, looks like a simple answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneK Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 It should be a rule, POST THE PLAN!!!! I know many worry of rude comments or suggestions that are not what you want. BUT I can almost promise your problem will be solved by one of the many power users. I must add another comment, GIVE THESE GUYS THE POINTS THEY DESERVE FOR HELPING YOU.!!!! This site is the POWER HOUSE of Chief Architect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycoralie Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Okay. I can't post the plan. I get a message saying it is over 25 mb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Try to see if you can post a zip file that is under 25MB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycoralie Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Okay Chopsaw. I'll give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycoralie Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Sorry I didn't post the plan before. I was having trouble with it last night - my time, and it was very late down here and I couldn't get it to upload. Montview.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 It appears as the top of that wall was edited in 3D or altered in some other way. Select the wall, open the DBX and go to the Structure tab and under Default wall Heights select Default Wall Top Height. Done Any other issues you need help with while the plan is open? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycoralie Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) Thanks Chopsaw. I will try that now. Edited June 20, 2017 by ladycoralie Spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycoralie Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Hi. I tried that with the default wall heaight but it didn't work. there are probably a lot of issues with the plan, but I will try to tackle them one by one. Otherwise I get too mixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Ok I see the issue on the interior side now but it seems that even if it does not snow where you are your 87 mm rafters are not going to work for a cathedral ceiling in combination with the ICF wall. You will need a much thicker rafter and an interior attic filler wall that sits on top of the ICF. Would also be helpful to updated your signature. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycoralie Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Chopsaw said: It appears as the top of that wall was edited in 3D or altered in some other way. Select the wall, open the DBX and go to the Structure tab and under Default wall Heights select Default Wall Top Height. Done Any other issues you need help with while the plan is open? Hi Chopsaw. It didn't seem to work for me changing the default wall height in the DBX. In the end I decded to change the little gable roof to a shed roof and deleted the attic walls. That worked. The inside walls now meet the roof properly. I would have liked to have kept the little gable roof as I thought it looked pretty, but I couldn't figure it out without the wall popping through the roof. Thanks for you help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Yes I agree the gable looks better and will keep the rain out for longer. You still have a structure and ventilation issue without addressing the rafter thickness and figuring out how to support the roof overhang. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycoralie Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Hi Chopsaw. Just saw your reply about the rafter issue. How do I find the rafters to fix them? Thanks. NewShedRoofMontview.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycoralie Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Sorry, I don't understand what I'm supposed to do with my signature? How do you update it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Open the Roof Plane or Build > Roof > Edit All Roof planes and then Structure-Roof Layers-Structure. I changed yours with the gable roof to 235 (2x10) and it seemed to help a lot but still not sure if that would meet structural requirements for your area. Account Settings > Signature.... X8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycoralie Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Thanks Chopsaw. I went and had a look at the dbx as suggested. Is that what I have to do when building in ICF to all walls? I didn't know about that. What happens if one wall is ICF and the other is siding? With the sig, I'l just put in X8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 It all depends on the roof pitch and rafter spans, required insulation and ventilation space on top of that and right over the supporting wall is usually the most critical place. It would be best to talk to a local contractor or building department for details. It will make more sense after you have framed and cut a cross section. It seems that you are now using X8 ? And sometimes it is helpful to have some computer specs in your signature if you run into performance issues and are asking those kind of questions on the forum, and anything else you care to share. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycoralie Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Thanks for your help Chopsaw. I have made a new roof and added some little dormers, but didn't change the rafters on the little gable section because those walls are with siding. From the outside it looks fine, but inside there are problems where the ceiling and roof meet. Is that because of the rafters, the dormers or something else? I'm just popping out to the shops, so if you don't hear from me for a little bit, that is why. Thanks again. You've been a big help to me. NewRoof_with_Dormers.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Yes, Usually all the rafters in a joined roof section are the same size based on the worst case scenario of the roof. It is usually just too complicated to to figure out and build a transition that works for both the upper roof surface and the ceiling surface on the bottom when it is covering just one room. It seems a little wasteful but not sure there is a standardized way to make anything else work consistently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycoralie Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Hi Chopsaw. I wil probably do a different size rafter with with the walls that are siding then. Do you have any ideas why the ceiling doesn't look right on the interior at all? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Yes, Change those roof planes for the Gable dormer roof to 235 and you will see that chief can then manage to close the gaps. If you were going to try a different size rafter you must consider a lot of things inside and out. soffit, fascia, valley location, wall height, etc , etc..... You might consider trying to figure it out if it was an open rafter situation but otherwise probably not worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladycoralie Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Hey that worked Chopsaw. Thankyou so much. The roof looks really good on that section now and my room looks really pretty too. I changed the rafter size and the ceiling now meets the walls properly. It looks really good and I'm pretty excited by it. Thanks for teaching me something new. I can now try to apply it to the rest of the roofs when I make them. Many thanks again, Chopsaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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