MarkMc

Draw a line as a guide, ctrl alt C, reflect about line (ctrl F on my system)

Shoulda mentioned that the biggest difference between the current laptop CPUs and the desktop one is when using multiple screens. Desktop CPUs don't have Optimus to work around, get hiccups with the old 15" machine when connected to the Dell (sometimes). Decent speed for me- yesterday all day with 28mb plan, second 9 mb, plan, layout file, 2-3 perspectives at a time, 4 elevations, 3 cad details, firefox with 4+ tabs, bluebeam with 6 tabs, xNview, Chaos Intellect, occasionally open office Calc-no lag-except the normal when switching to watercolor with line for renderings.

I only use a laptop. Cooling matters for constant use or it will get throttled. I use Clevo Sagers-I like the ports, cooling and ability to customize-the one at the top of my signature was $3k and has a desktop CPU. That said with the newer NVidia cards I could see using one with a laptop CPU, more so if it's not for all day constant use ( and or fewer screens-I also run two extra monitors- 24" dell, 15" Display port (draws off the CPU not the vid card) and sometimes add in a 42" Samsung TV with clients.) An option NP8372 with 17.3" FHD IPS Matte Screen w/ G-Sync, Intel® Kaby Lake i7-7700HQ,NVIDIA® Geforce® GTX 1070 [8GB] VR Ready, 16GB RAM (Up to 32GB 2400MHz) 250GB M.2 SSD + 1TB HDD Starts at $1700- plus the OS (120 for win 10 Pro) Same thing with a Desktop CPU 7700k adds $400 Given a choice I'd wait a month or two. New Intel Chips dropping shortly and supposedly the biggest improvement in them is in the laptop chips. Personally I'm waiting till first or second quarter of next year when supposedly yet another group of Intel Chips and some new NVIDIA chips land but I'll be looking for a rocket. You will find some similar for other brands, link I posted specializes in gaming machines there are other options.

Frameless has been like that since it was added to Chief. You can use framed with 5/8 separation and full overlay. There will still be a ghost line on cabinet sides at 3/4 that should not be there.

Yes it does but since I have to order fillers I want to place them myself have them as shortcut keys- FW, FB, FT...

Turn off "automatic fillers" in cabinet defaults general

Well pretty cool. Not sure I get how to do it and keep what I already have in the field but will give it a go in for morning. Thanks

For the job I need this for I already need all 4 of the OIP fields are already in use for other things. If I can't change the designated h,w,d columns it will be easier for me to change all the labels ( I think?;) Thanks

The standard width, box height and depth columns- I already use all the OIP fields for other things. Changing "number style" doesn't do it, no way to insert %width% into them that I know of.

Trying to have a cabinet schedule read dimensions in decimal. Is that possible? How? Can't find a solution.

Please don't misunderstand, I don't think it's worth doing this with cabinets. It's not how I'd order or build it in the first place and cabinets have no real advantage as a symbol here. OTOH the other methods suggested are easy and effective to accomplish this in both 3D and for docs. I might lean toward using psolids to control the reveals. So long as you are painting and not using wood then there are no grain direction issues so those are pretty quick. Did this over coffee this morning bit of copying and used concentric behavior to get the frame. As with many things in Chief there are several ways to get where you're going, just need to see how the program thinks and learn the tools.

I don't know if it is worth the effort but here is a plan with one cabinet done and the parts used. I didn't take the time to make a framed door for this-just a proof of concept really. I started with a CAD detail from view then locked it to have a guide for angles and such. Draw the overall cabinet as a psolid then copy and past in place and resize elements as you go. At some point some have to me moved out of the way to work. Then copy and paste them into another plan to create door symbols. Open the included door symbols to get an idea of what needs to be done to the stretch areas to make this all work. NOTE-Either Chief or I am dyslexic-the symbols will insert backwards into a cabinet from the way they view when you make them OR when they are in the library.?? . Final parts for each front would need to be made specifically but saving the plan(s) with psolid used to generate them allows faster alteration. Had some trouble getting the grain on the top angled rail to cooperated so that may need to be exploded into faces first (see Alaskan Son's post back a ways on doing that to fix grain directions. I included a door symbol used for the sides that is placed into the back of the cabinet. I'd also likely place rollouts and such that way-into the back. But didn't here, just specified the shelves. Stair cabinet.plan

PDF2CAD - I found out about that here on the forum and can't in my current state remember who-in any case it's not free but my trial version has been running forever? Alternate-here is your pdf converted to a PNG. Once imported you can use point to point resize on it. You can't snap to it the way you could to a DWG but it uses less resources than PDF so behaves better. I converted this in Bluebeam PDF Revu. (oo Think it was Rod Cole? for that program?)

Make your own door symbol and adjust the origin. Attached plan has a couple of options to point you in the right direction. Open plan, open cabinet DBXs, open door symbol dbx (not object) and read up on symbols in reference manual. These don't operate. To do that with just cabinets you'd need to have two cabinets-one open, one closed, on top of each other on different layers. You could make some wall definitions, build the cabinet from walls, room with shelf ceiling. You will need to mess with the door symbol quite a bit. In the long run not worth the trouble IMO but a start is included. BTW this kind of question belongs in the Q& A section. Also please add version you are using and computer information to your signature. SLiders.plan

Specify a different door style for any that are another color Attached Curved colors.zip

This was in recent newsletter-

select the wall you want to move THEN click the dimension.

Files do not share between the two. You can export a 2D floor plan which can be imported and traced otherwise 2020 can't import much worth anything except from Envisioneer. IF you know the correct cabinet codes for the brand AND have that set up for the labels then a cabinet schedule can be useful. If you also know the codes for accessories and modifications even better, those can go into one of the cabinet OIP fields. (I use "Code"). I have copied and pasted a good cabinet schedule from CA to a spreadsheet and then used that to copy and paste into 2020 to get individual cabinets. They still have to be placed into the floor plan (or alternately into an "Item List" in 2020 and just use Chief drawings. It can be extremely fast once you get the hang of it in 2020 BUT the 2020 operator needs to be capable. Last I knew 2020 could not import any sort of cabinet list on it's own. Forgot just in case- as far as getting 2020 files into Chief-it can export 3D dwg but that comes in a a single object-really don't want to go there IMO.

No but the Chief Architect Viewer would at least allow you to open the file and see the changes, just not edit it there. I don't know if you need to be on support to request it though?

Curved cabinet- make door panels-the attached has 0" overlay and 0" separation and 1/16" counter with 0" overhang. Then every area you want to have a different texture needs to use a different door or drawer style. Slabs are easy since there are so many. This has 3 stiles.

I'm assuming the reason the OP asked is the "S" shaped cabinet on the end which is where there can be door/drawer trouble OR if you want it to appear as a single cabinet plan/elevation. Otherwise curved cabinets are cake.

That's a tough one- here's what I came up with in between watching putts it-depends on how many variables you have and/or how fussy you want to be about extra lines in vector view (have to be cleaned up in layout)-getting a good plan view and getting a decent counter. 1)- just using bow front cabinets- the counters are difficult and the side of the drawers are also difficult to control. 2) Making a door symbol solves a few of the problems on the side and is easier to have a set back section for the pull area. The plan view is awful. 3-export as DAE, import as Millwork symbol gives a clean plan view and allows some resizing getting into the schedule is another issue. Curious how you make out. NOTE that Chief reverses the door symbol once you place it into a cabinet-very annoying, have run into this before and I really don't know how to change it. CUrved cabinets.plan

I usually float them in one way or another-one that is easier to control is a cabinet that is 1/16 taller than the toe, with feet, cabinet material "opening no material", other cabinets are raised off the floor without toe kick. This allows the feet to get into the schedule but requires using an OIP field for the other cabinet height (depending on how it has to be ordered)

Singndance asked how to make these. Turns out they were a bit more of a challenge than I first expected. Attached plan file with cabinets and parts used, another that was used to make the channel door symbols. In general-draw molding profile for each channel, in blank plan draw a molding line and add profile (I also added stretchers to it) convert that to a door symbol. You will use the door symbol as "side panel inset" in the cabinet. You have to mess with the origin and stretch areas-open the included symbols and study those things carefully. Turns out that I also had to mess with the cabinet construction quite a bit. The sides are openings, there are panels (door symbols I had) inserted into the back, and the box construction is unusual to say the least. The left, right and center cabinets are each slightly different. You can go from here. Channel Doors.zip Channels Caibinets w doors.zip

I'd make it a symbol. Easier to resize in any direction, can then use replace from library all identical on floor. You can replace arch blocks with a symbol but not psolids.