GeneDavis

My out-of-box X16 walls, interior and exterior (like Siding-6) walls have materials set as "Drywall" as default. So the walls are a color, a material named "Drywall." And the material reports to material lists in sheets with sizes like 1/2 x 54 x 144. There is no thin paint layer. What is best practice for painting walls?

So he or she designs, and you do the con docs? Or are you to 3D this and provide renderings. Looks like a poche-fill section cut at about 48" above floor, niches and fancy doorways, and everything on an angle is at 45. Chief can do this fancy plan view style option (all wall lines black, all layers fill black) so we can bill at a higher rate. If it's a con docs scope, I'd ask the client, hey, I cannot imagine I'm your first drafter, how about sharing with me some con docs you have from a couple jobs already built, so I can see the program.

@Kbird1Thanks, Mick. It's a tricky one to get right, and it shows a little flaw in Chief that will likely never get fixed. The flaw (is it a bug?) is what you and I ran up against when doing the cheek wall that sits atop the 2x4 interior wall below, on plan left. The one on plan right is built atop the roof and you built it as siding-6, has no lower pony section, is spec'd roof-cuts-wall-at-bottom, and builds OK. Your version models cleanly when the pony wall side, plan L, is 2x4 wall upper and lower, but when one tries doing the upper as siding-6, it won't model clean no matter what you do. While you get a clean model this way, looking as expected inside, and clean outside in that the siding wraps and renders with no flaws, the model from outside is assymetrical. I drew this in Chief whatever version, back in 2010, when the house got built. I did most all the tricky carpentry during construction, and remember cutting the roof for the framing gang. When doing the model back then, I ran into the same problem as I have today in trying to recreate the job. A new client wants to build a copy of the plan and I did not save the one from way back. See the image from the .pdf con docs used in 2010, attached. We built the walls both sides with 2x4 framing, and padded out the above-roof cheeks with 2" of rigid foam faced with 7/16" OSB. The print says 1x strapping but I know we just used OSB. The image I crayon-marked is from your model, and I am showing how the wall at plan L is 2x4 and on R is 2x6.

Close the file, zip it if over 15, amd attach again.

No Chief access right now, but any fix has to leave the INSIDE of the room same as before any roof/wall edits.

OK @Kbird1I'm back after some more fiddling and I am still unable to get this mess to close up. Each cheek wall is a siding-6 OOB Chief wall built at the A (attic) level and designated roof-cuts-wall-at-bottom. Each sits atop interior-4 OOB Chief walls below on the second floor level 2. The roof hole sides come in via the program to cut under the walls. If you go in the dormer room inside you can select these walls to see how they fit to the scheme of walls, the interior lower walls sitting under the cheeks. As is seen in 3D, the front ends of the cheek walls will not close with siding finish and I am befuddled as to why this won't build as expected. The file is attached. Glenrock clone.zip

Won't work. Two walls cannot occupy the same floor space. Any attempt to drag that wall under the cheek wall above kills the cheek wall. I wanted to have it all be true in this dormer so I could get Chief to frame it. There's some complex framing going on here (I cut it all myself a dozen years ago so I know) and I wanted to be able to get most of it to auto. But I can do the wall thing with a solid, and manually frame the funky parts. Somebody wants a close clone of this which is why I am modeling it all over and doing a new set of con docs. All I have from the 2010 project is a .pdf of the bid set docs.

It's gonna have to be a 3D solid, because dragging the wall down yields a siding-6 wall inside, not the siding-4 wall I wanted. I wonder why the lower wall type if roof cuts thing does not work. It seems as if the tool (tool? command?) is there specifically for situations like this dormer thing, an interior wall under the cheek wall.

Hey, Mick @Kbird1! Thanks for the fix but how does one get the interior-4 wall to go in the space under that exterior cheek wall, to close the room inside. See my pic. I tried doing the "lower roof type if split by adjoining roof" and got things all messed up, editing the roof to "intersect" (i.e. but tight against finish layer) but got nowhere.

Wow! Thanks. That'll do it for me.

Hey Mick, @Kbird1! Thanks, but can you tell me what you did? What I want is the way I built this thing a dozen years ago. The cheek walls bear atop the sheathing and are 2x6 framing, just little things, their inner line lining up with the 2x4 wall below and the inviz one on the R side.

I fixed it so anyone with the link can download it. Thanks for looking.

Thanks but the roof does some unexpected snapping when I try all that, and I can never get clean corners.

Here is a link to the plan file, I hope it works. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oGjMh6BkRag3XOpFHvuqKC8rBs-kY5mp/view?usp=sharing A dormer with front wall rising from exterior wall below has two problem cheek walls, and they are not symmetrical as you will see if you examine the plan. Inside, things all look good to me, but outside, it sucks. All help is appreciated. In the closeup image, I point at the problems.

So the only use of the offset setting is for vector views? Is this made clear in the help files?

This is the forum for Chief Architect Premiere users. HD users have their own forum, and you should be posting this there.

Show us the .calibz file in the folder that won't import. Post it here.

"The guy wants a flat roof now . . . " Sounds like a guy who has no idea of how to build, has to build this himself because he has no money, and the idea of roof framing is as alien as mandarin chinese. Sometime you gotta say hey, I'm outa here.

Can someone pinpoint the sequence of wall build that ends in the error? It sounds so simple. Pony wall, 8" brick up, concrete with footing down.

There is SO much you can learn about using Chief on YouTube. I searched roof purlins chief architect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXphFJLHiTM&loop=0

I cannot access Chief right now, but have this thought. In X15 draw some dimension strings and edit move all the text placements to irregular places. Then save and close and open in X16. Show us the two.

The island shows a great way to use your leftover knobs.

Chief has a sample file at their website. The building is a pole barn with metal roof and sides. The project is titled Post Frame Design and includes the plan file, a .pdf of the layout, and links to How To Design videos.

I had not tried it, but was reading Chief help files which seemed to say stairs down were limited to down to terrain. Obvious not the case. I have no trouble in Chief annotating the same staircase as down in floor 1 plan view, and as up in the floor 0 level below. See pics. So what is the issue here @JBradleyConst?

Always attach images directly. Members don't want to download .pdf files to their drives.