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We are on, 4:00 pm Friday here. I will invite all those that were there yesterday. Anybody else who wants to come should email me. Thanks Glenn.

Hey guys, I have not heard from Glenn, maybe we can do it tomorrow if I hear from him. I need to go to the gym now to work off some of my fat. I will keep you posted. There was some pretty good stuff in the beginning of the meeting that was not resolved and maybe with Glenn's help we can get it done.

Yes, use the joist direction arrow, change spacing in arrow, divide different spaces with BEARING WALLS .

I ain't the sharpest pencil in the box, I just figured out that I have not heard from Glenn because it is 5:00 am in the morning in OZ. He has been sleeping the past 6 hours. We can address the last few posts at the meeting (if it happens).

It is, and I do it Perry's way too.

I did not record. I do not plan on doing a synopsis. We may do a follow up today.

My people are talking to Glenn's people about setting up a follow up today at the same time. Glenn is currently holding out for more money, but I am sure we can work something out, so stay tuned.

glenn, we are back on

if you guys are still around, I am up and running

Hey guys, very sorry but I think there is something wrong at my end. I will sort it out and reschedule. I was prepared to pepper Glenn with 19 quick short issues, it was going to be a good meeting. We will catch up when I get this worked out.

That might be it, I think my credit card number changed. BTW, Glenn is now conduction the meeting as me, and I am watching Glenn on Skyp, meanwhile Chopsaw is getting upset,

Now I am sick and tired of gotomeeting, go figure, it seems like I can't make a connection with GTM

call me, 619-200-1623

sorry guys, I can get on all web sites except for GOTOMEETING, GTM might be having problems...... I will stick with it for another 15 minutes, if not, we will need to reschedule.

Working on it, might try doing a skype? I am checking with Glenn.

sorry guys, technical difficulties, give me 10 minutes, so sorry

That is the answer.

Wow, I thought it was just the opposite. Build the bay manually and the world is your oyster..... except for a few minor limitations..... but better that than auto bays......

A participant in tomorrow's GTM emailed me and suggested I invite someone from CA to attend as a "fly on the wall". If someone from CA is interested in listening to the discussion, they can email me with an anonymous email and they can truly be a fly on the wall. I will add, in spite of our complaints, most of us feel that you guys do a great job. Thank you for all you do for us.

On demand.

That did happen to me also, I have not see it lately. However, I have printed some PDF's where other layers that were turned off printed... my print was a mess. I just don't think I need to or do I have the time to recheck what CA produces in a PDF. Here is an example.... this was not on there when I went to print.

Here is another one, note the vertical shadow to the left of w(02). What is causing the shadow? Well, yesterday there was an 8" pop-out/architectural projection that caused the shadow. Zoning required I delete the pop-out, I did, do you see a vertical line? No. I had updated the elevation, the shadow stayed, the architectural projection was gone. I missed the remaining shadow before I printed plans. I just got off the phone with the plan checker, she picked it up, I assured her that I eliminated the projection, she was nice enough to believe me and so I will get my permit. Otherwise it was a minimum of x amount of dollars to reprint, redeliver, meet again with plan checker blah blah blah.... I have now reopened and it is okay, but you can see by the picture that something is awry. There is no vertical wall edge to cause the shadow, yet it is there. I am getting very frustrated with this type of stuff.

Maybe this thread was born out of frustration, but to blame power users for retarding improvements in the program is nutty. It's the power users who are the most vocal when it comes to improving the program. However, the power users are guilty of trying to find solutions with the inconsistencies with the program. Hey power users, stop trying to help with alternant solutions.

BTW, the garage is 24' x 24'. If you make it narrower, remove the beam, the joists and strapping go in different directions (good), if you make the garage wider, they run parallel with each other (bad), if you keep the garage 24' sq without a beam, the joist and strapping run in opposite directions (good), if you put a beam in, the joists and strapping run parallel (bad). I have not tested what would happen if I stood on my tip toes and said 7 Hail Mary's. Is this inconsistent behavior or is it just me? Come on CA, let's somehow get this stuff to behave consistently. And yes I have made the request to be able to control the direction behaviors.

That my friend is very good. You put the strapping in the CEILING FINISH dbx. Very nice. But wait, why can't we specify the joists going in one direction and the strapping/or dropped ceiling joists going in the other direction? Maybe if an architect was on staff, he would of picked this up. BTW, in the past (several years ago) I have requested the ability to have ceiling/floor joists running in one direction and having the dropped ceiling joists/strapping running in the other direction. I wonder if this is a good feature request?