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Just to be clear, I am assuming there is nothing you are telling me that will alleviate the issue I am having.

It is surprising. I do not think it is CA's fault. I think it is Apple's responsibility or maybe some super smart guy who can write a program that will create pdf's for the mac that are not too large.

And now 5 guesses, even a Chief muckity muck needs the plan, but I bet he is wrong, I am going to stick with my theory that it is a double wall issue.

So, I am now on a mac. A pdf file on a mac is about 80 megs, same file on pc about 4 megs, file 20 time larger, hard to email. So I have to quit CA on MAC and deactivate license, open PC and activate CA license on PC and then print a PDF. What the EF are you guys doing? Do you guys print a PDF on a MAC? And then what do you do? Isn't your PDF too large to email. How do you send this file to anybody? My first computer was a MAC SE30 back in 1989, 80 meg of hard drive space, which was big back then, I could not even save my current mac pdf's on that machine. I wish someone would fix this.

Again I am wrong, yes, Ron is probably the grumpiest of the grumpy...... but think about it..... he has had about 83 years to practice, not as much as JC, but pretty darn close.

This is a great thread, one question, four guesses from some of the biggest nitwits to grace this site (including me), and we do not have a answer. I will put up 10 zlotyies (approx. $3.30), that the question will not be answered before the run the Indianapolis 500 this weekend. In fact it probably will not be anwered before the July 4rth weekend. Anybody want to take that bet? Of course if the plan is posted, all bets are off, heck, if the plan is posted JC can probably come up with the answer...... love ya JC, still thinking about golf next Thursday.... things are getting busy..... having problems squeezing my wife into my life right now.

You are not suppose to know anything since you are new, but if you had looked at the very first topic in the section where you posted the question, there is a thread that gives some advice on how to get good answers. https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/23-how-to-get-good-answers-when-you-ask-questions/ BTW, the only person grumpier than Bryce is me. Everybody else is very nice to the newbies.

Yeah, you probably have an extra wall somewhere, seen this before, can not give definite answer without plan, you must try to figure out what is causing this, bottom line, there are two walls where the window is...... I think...... but who knows.

JC is a knucklehead, but he's a good guy.

Nuts Buddy, I did a vid on that, study up on setting up your quick keys, you probably have to define the hot key yourself , but that is even better

Hey Lew, JC is just goofing with you,

Yeah, T.I.'s generally not as complicated. Not saying room planner won't work, but I would rather go in with an entire battalion instead of a squad of new recruits...... Hey, not a bad analogy.

Here is a vid on another approach. Nothing earth shattering. http://youtu.be/pgl7y3OFTuA

Yeah Bill, I think I like your BLACK dashed lines for removed walls vs my GREY dashed lines for removed walls, I may have to rethink this. Comment on your new SOLID BLACK WALLS for new walls, it is very clear, however I use a DARK GREY for the new walls, reason being, DIMENSION TICKS etc., do not get "lost" in the solid black walls..... just a thought.

Bill, took a look at your screen shot, couple of comments. I like the way you show the removed walls, very clear, might consider using a GRADUATED GREY LINE STYLE, that is what I use, but yours might be clearer, stands out more, but then again maybe you don't want it to stand out more, personal taste The trellis, or what I assume is the trellis, I definitely show the trellis as dashed grey lines, just a thought, (on second thought, maybe I am looking at a framing plan thus the solid lines.... got it, very helpful to look at other plans, we can always learn something, thx) But nice clear plan.

Such a great lesson from Jay. Think about it, you asked how to drop the height of the walls, if you dropped wall height what do you think would happen to roof? Yes, drop the roof 24" and that changes wall height. IOW, roof controls wall height, not vice versa.

Is FART the correct term to be using here? Ron, how long does your on site visit take, and does that mean you have a complete set of as-builts. IOW, how long does it take for you to complete a set of as builts for a 2200 sf two story house on a flat lot. That is what I am referring to, is it more expeditious to do everything on site or do the majority of modeling in the office? I am sure you can draw the as built on site, but what is the quickest way..... inquiring minds want to know.

A rep point right back at you Bud.

WARNING WARNING WARNING, a nay sayer is about to pontificate. I have been following this discussion about the ROOM PLANNER APP, and I (I have been wrong soooooooo many times), but I think this will never work for the power user. I have measure thousands of jobs, maybe more than Perry, and then maybe not. I cannot imagine trying to put an as built together on site. The dimensions are never absolute. When I get back to my office to draw the as builds based on field notes, there are always minor discrepancies of 1"-3". When I take field notes, I draw the plan at 1/8"-1'-0" free hand. I get the perimeter dimensions and then fit everything inside that space. If the interior room sizes do not fit with in the space (on site), I know I have a busted dimension and I go find it. If you want to draw an as-built on site, go for it, but I would bet I could do it faster with the combination of using field notes and then drawing it at the office on a computer that had the power to put it together. When I measure an as built, it typically takes between 1.5 and 4 hours. I go back to the office and put in on the computer takes an additional 6-12 hours. For a net total of 8-16 hours for a COMPLETE AS BUILT including SITE PLAN, ROOF PLAN, EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS, FLOOR PLANS, FRAMING PLANS, FOUNDATION PLAN AND 8-16 BUILDING SECTIONS. If anybody thinks they can put together a set of as builts faster on site, I would be most interested in learning the method, please share. Bottom line, this ROOM PLANNER APP is probably geared more for the KITCHEN/BATH REMODELER or the CLOSET ORGANIZER COMPANY. Putting together a full comprehensive set of as builts together for a house between 1200-3500 s.f. on site sounds like a daunting task......... The point of the post is, for you guys that think this will be a god send, I seriously doubt it. But, I have been wrong so many times before, it would not surprise me if I was wrong again.

We have spoken about this before. You can go back and forth no problem.

select cabinet, open dbx, go or DOOR/DRAWER<DRAWER HANDLE<IN FROM EDGE........ change the number ZERO to 3" , you will now have two handles

Here is a link to a vid showing a method. https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/979-dustoaction-tree-house-over-barn-videos-by-dsh/

Nobody has said this as well as you just did, thanks. But if it were possible that would be super.

Assuming we still can not get multiple framed walls in one defined wall...... wish we could have that...... one wall type with multiple wall layers that has stud framing.

It never ceases to amaze me how much I don't know. The reason this forum is so good is we can always pick up a new tip. Thank you Jon, you got a rep point for this one. Another 47 points and you will catch up to Perry.