Alaskan_Son

Oh I didn't say that. Just said I could reproduce Kinda fun actually adjusting an object in one view and watching the dimensions adjust in another. Not very helpful in this case though. You can do this with roof planes too by the way. Attach a text arrow to one and then Display on Floor Above/Below. If you adjust roof plane on the new floor it affects the original arrow on the original floor. We can also get a similar behavior when dimensioning to wall framing. Oh, and also for room macros in CAD Details. Open a CAD Detail in a plan with defined rooms and you'll see that %room% macros reflect information from the actual plan view based on current room information located in that same X/Y area. The latter has some obvious benefits. The others less so. The one you've shown though seems to have no benefits at all.

I see now. Yes. I can definitely reproduce that. Looks like the dimensions stay associated with the original objects. You should report it.

I don't seem to have that problem. Can you post an example?

Just a guess, but sounds to me like you probably edited your Exterior Wall Defaults to use a non-default pitch. Try opening up your Exterior Wall Defaults, click on the Roof tab and make sure the little Use Default wrench icon has a check on it.

What you essentially have is a roof with 2 framing layers right? One perpendicular to the other. The problem is that Chief doesn't allow for 2 framing layers to be defined so we must frame one of them manually. Define your roof structure to have 2 layers, one layer for the rafters and one layer for the purlins. Set the purlin layer to a framing material and and the rafter layer to a non-framing material for the time being. Make sure to check Lookouts in the roof Structure tab and then auto build the roof framing. Select one of the lookouts, block it, and add it to your library. Name it purlin or something you'll otherwise remember. Hit Undo a couple times to get rid of the roof framing. Go back into your roof structure tab and change the structure layers so that the rafter is a framing material and so that the purlin layer is an air gap. You can now frame your roof as usual. Drop your Purlin block into the plan and explode it. You can now multiple copy that around, resize it as necessary, and use various CAD tools (extend, trim, etc.) to create your purlins. Because it was originally framed in the second layer of the roof structure it should always automatically return to that second layer when you drop it into the plan.  NOTE: The top of your purlin will always automatically align itself with the top of your upper structure layer and will resize about that point if you change the depth.

Only when I'm hanging around someone using the word strapping. I actually forget that term in between uses. In fact, I remembered it right after I posted above and then went back and edited it to add the word strapping as well.

Even easier. Don't use the reduced gable option.

Would I though?

Maybe. I guess time will tell. I do seem to recall seeing something in one or more of their little sneak peeks though. In the meantime, there are several methods, but if you use trusses, you can simply make them all Reduced Gable trusses and then manually drag an automatically generated lolookout right over the top of all of them.

I would call those purlins or strapping

Can't or won't?

If we're talking about simple construction documents then I'd tend to agree. If it's for more accurate 3D renderings or more detailed site analysis then that's a whole different ballgame and I'd say every example solution given so far misses the mark. For an accurate stream with anything but a perfectly consistent width, the terrain needs to be drawn to suit. There's no "quick" method until that happens.

I understand all that. What I don't understand is how this relates to your request for 'shortcuts'. I don't see the connection.

Just FYI, Chief provided their own OOB object_properties macro that works just fine too... X12 OOB Object Properties.json

Can you expand upon what you mean by this? It sounds like you're describing the Insert Macro tool...

I agree with Glenn’s general assessment. It’s only going to be an extremely rough approximation though because water needs to be contained by the creek bed/river bank and as such: the terrain itself needs to be more accurately defined first. The terrain in the attached example will result in a creek notably different than the one drawn in with CAD. First fix (or at least refine) the terrain definition and then the creek will be much easier.

I haven't been able to reproduce this issue myself. Thanks Michael. I will give your 2nd suggestion a try. Is this a known problem with Chief that an isometric camera will move? Did you ever give that second suggestion a try?

%room.internal_area*0.05%

This can actually be done with the Reference Display and custom macros, but I personally just recommend using rich text boxes with the %room.name% macro. You just need 2 text boxes (1 for each text size) and you simply copy and paste as desired.

I can't speak for Kevin, but the most obvious answer is that they can't be kept live that way.

It might be know to a small number of people. I do recall having seen it before, but I also hardly...if ever...send orthographic 3D cameras to layout and as such it's not something I've personally had to contend with. The real question isn't whether its a "known" issue or not but whether or not Chief has been made aware of it and how many people have reported it. If only one person is reporting the problem, then its likely going to take a back seat to 100 other issues being reported by 2 people...and those are going to take a back seat to the 20 other issues being reported by 3 people, etc.

The whole key to Kevin's issue is the "Isometric" part. To create a true isometric view, he needs to be using an orthogaphic camera. Try sending one of those orthographic views to layout and then try moving, resizing, reshaping, and updating those views. I think you'll pretty quickly see the problem.

If you report it then it certainly will be.

Another couple potential methods: Send To Layout using Current Screen As Image Use Perspective Cameras with a 10 degree Field of View (the smallest it will go).