Alaskan_Son

I am unfamiliar with the clear shortcut you speak of. Can you elaborate? I searched clipboard in the Windows search bar but that came up empty. Any help would be appreciated.

It would be in your best interest if you were to attach the plan, But briefly speaking, there are a ton of different methods people use to do what you are trying to do including railing walls, pony walls, moldings, polyline solids, cabinets, custom countertops, doors, symbols, the list could probably go on. I personally use various methods depending on the situation, but more often than not I use a combination of walls dragged down in elevation view (half walls) , custom countertops (wall caps, and curb caps), and polyline solids (curbs, wall caps, curb caps, and glass panels).

OK, I have yet to see this problem on my desktop, but the copy/paste issue reared its ugly head on my laptop yesterday. Super annoying. It was only a problem copying from a CAD detail and pasting into plan. I could paste back into the CAD detail just fine, just not from CAD detail to plan. Never seen anything remotely like this since I started using chief with X3. The only fix I could find was to copy something in plan view and paste into plan view which seemed to "reset" things. It happened several times too. I noticed when I shut my laptop off at the end of the day to go home that a couple oddball programs or processes were automatically shut down as well. I just barely caught view of the little pop-up window and didn't recognize the names of the items being shut down.

I sent you a PM with my email address.

Didn't spend a whole lot of time with it as I'm working on some other things here, but I took a quick look. You can change that wall back to a normal wall (remove the pony wall definition), simply drag the wall down in elevation view, and uncheck Use Room Ceiling Finish in the roof plane dbx. You can then use a polyline solid or any other number of methods for the shelf itself. There are other methods as well, but hopefully that at least gets you started down one possible path.

Post the plan and you'll get better answers.

Very nicely done! Thank you!!

Your post is a little confusing to me and if I understand you correctly I think your window schedules are going to confuse people, but here's what I have to offer for the time being... If you want a mulled unit to have a single label and display in your schedule as a single unit choose "Show Single Label For Entire Unit" If you want a mulled unit to show a single label and display as 3 separate windows in the schedule (albeit in the same row) they have to be identical units (even adding text to the comment field will make the window unique) and you'll have to do something manually depending on your desired end result. A few things that come to mind... A. Suppress all labels and manually add the label using a callout or a text box B. Choose "Show Single Label For Entire Unit" and simply add a note in the label field or in one of the fields in the Components dbx describing the window however you want to C. Set the unit to display component labels and simply drag the extra labels off to the side of the plan somewhere so they're out of view Anyway, hopefully that helps. We could probably help you a little better if you were to attach a plan as I'm not sure I fully understand what is going on. It doesn't make sense to me

I think I may have misunderstood what you were trying to do Joe. I originally thought maybe you were only trying to get rid of the extended portion of the bottom cord and leave the upper cord. Now I'm realizing you were trying to chop the tails off entirely. I think Jere's suggestion as well as manually adding your rafters as you said will work great. Depending on the complexity of the roof, one other thing you can consider doing instead of manually editing the trusses in section view is this... Temporarily drag your roof plane back to the exterior wall, build your trusses, group select them, lock the truss envelopes, and then drag your overhang back out. Could be a lot faster than manually editing a bunch of different truss profiles if the roof is really complex.

You should spend a little time to learn to use Annotation Sets. In the meantime, just double click on the dimension or text tool you're using and set the layer in there. This will change the layer your text or dimensions are placed on. OR you can also place all those annotations and then group select and put them into their own layer. The Current CAD layer is for CAD only and not text or dimensions.

Not sure if that is a Chief related tip or construction related tip, but if it is the latter, that's a really good idea. Thanks!

Just got back to my computer and played around with it for a bit. I think the quickest and most accurate method to achieve what you're looking for is by setting that lower face item to be an inset side panel. The bottom of the box could be built either using a Separation or by placing a shelf manually...and then if necessary, use the vertical overlap as Mark suggested to make the door look right (would require a taller separation at the top as well). If you don't need the extra door overlap, just skip that last step.

Gotcha. Yes there is a way of doing that without tacking molding onto the bottom in real life. I've never attempted to do that in Chief though. That's the type of thing I would just note on my cabinet plans.

I personally don't think the molding is complex or a workaround. I was just trying to offer an alternative. Not exactly sure what you're overall goal is it what your issue with the moulding is but the toe-kick thing is just what came to mind.

I'm away from my computer right now Joe, but if I understand what you are trying to do, you should be able to check "energy heel" which will stop the bottom chord at the exterior wall.

I've never tried this, and I'm away from my computer, but could you use a base cabinet with a toe kick for that area?

I think the only way to do what you're asking for with auto dimensions is to create a wall type with 2 main layers of equal sizes and set it to dimension to the exterior of the inside layer. Maybe consider using Point To Point or Centerline dimensions instead.

In Chief we have Copy/Paste in Place.

Do you realize there are 3 entirely different layer sets you are using? Changing the display while in plan view won't fix your problem (i.e just because the layer is on in plan doesn't mean it's on in your camera view layer set or section view layer set. if you attach a plan you'll probably get an accurate answer.

By the way, thank you Joe. This is something I wasn't fully aware of. Good piece of information to have.

Joe nailed it. You had a block within a block. Just explode and reblock and you're good to go.

Can you attach a plan with the CAD block and your symbol?

Your problem stems from your wall definitions. You need to check the box I have circled in the attached pic for each of your wall layers or else those lines will remain the same color in ALL layer sets...

You can email it to me if you'd like and I'll take a peek. I'll send you a PM with my email address. Or you can send to Dropbox.

There's a really good chance you'll get an answer if you post the plan.