Alaskan_Son

I posted an answer to your problem over in the thread you started in the General Q&A forum (where this as well as your posted plan probably should be). EDIT: It looks like the moderators moved this thread to where it should be. See my response here... https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/9499-decking-placement-issues/#entry83177

I looked at the plan you posted in your other thread. It looks like you must have changed those deck structure settings at some point. First, the New Deck seems to have had the planks removed (Deck room Structure tab>Planks,Joists). Add a material for the planks to the first layer and then go to the Deck tab and check Automatically regenerate deck framing. For the Existing Deck, simply check Automatically regenerate deck framing and you should be good to go on that one. Hopefully that gets you in the right direction at least.

It looks like you have your deck structure set incorrectly. If you were to post the plan we would be able to give you a better answer. In the meantime, Help>Launch Help (F1) is your friend...get in the habit of using it. You'll be glad you did.

I usually just add stuff like that with polyline solids drawn in elevation view.

I see what you were envisioning. If the room spans entire across the floor structure then there's no issue, but that's not often the case. As soon as there are any breaks, jogs, or rooms that otherwise don't span the entire floor structure there would be major issues getting that to automate. I just don't think there's any way of making that happen with Chief's room based paradigm. They would have to make a separate group of tools like many of the other programs have where you build floors, walls, ceilings, etc. separately. And then, what's the point. It's easy enough to just manually change a few joists here and there as necessary.

Chopper, I just sent you a PM.

Not true. Changing the width of a joist requires a seam no matter how you look at it. Johnny is correct.

So true I'm sure we have some pretty oddball lingo, but I think the majority of our terms are pretty consistent with most west cost terminology. Most people here (myself included) would likely call that stuff door stop as well and then modify the term with "trim", "moulding", or some other term only if it seemed necessary. We would also call those doingy, rubber, or spring loaded things door stops as well. The difference is that I would order "a door stop" or "some door stops" when talking about the hardware but would order "some door stop", "200 lin. ft. of door stop" or " 10 sticks of door stop" when talking about the moulding.

Can you attach that plan? I'm really curious.

You're welcome. The 3D is all there. You just have to import as a 3D Symbol and not as a drawing.

Are you turning off the living area label via Default Settings>Plan?

Here you go Kathleen. See if these work for you. I had a friend of mine open and save in an older version of AutoCAD (2000). Not sure what exactly the issue was. Maybe just the fact the file was written by a newer version (regardless of what file type it was saved as). Who knows. But hopefully these work for you (they do for me). 3D dwg file_Yanky Steinmetz 2.zip

You bet!!

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Yep. This is one reason I think Chief really needs to improve its instancing capabilities. We are so close...yet so far.

Ya. That's what I was saying. Those room labels are 2 piece labels. The text in both pieces is rotating just fine. What's NOT rotating is the center points or rotation point of those 2 "text boxes". If you made the main room label 10 or 20 lines long for example and then rotate, it becomes more apparent what's going on.

I'm not at my computer to test it for you Scott, but do you have any DWG, PDF, or image files hanging out in that plan view somewhere?

Not sure. That's doesn't look familiar. Can you maybe zip it and attach here so we can test it out for you?

I believe the source of your problem is that dropped ceiling and the corresponding top section of wall that is automatically created (thereby changing the way that invisible wall works). I just don't think the invisible wall method works very well in that situation. I would use a Doorway. Just suppress the casing and Edit>Default Settings>Plan, check "Ignore Casing for Opening Resize". Drag the doorway so that it fills the entire width, set the height appropriately, and I think you should be good to go.

Thanks for the video Glenn. Chopsaw, FWIW, you can also use that revolve tool to actually just remove that profile from your original cylinder if you wanted to. Simply create a face with that arc shape on it...maybe a full circle, revolve it around the center of that cylinder to create a donut shaped ring, select the cylinder, click Solid Subtraction, and then click the ring you previously created.

Ya. It sounds like a moulding polyline would be a lot easier for you. I'm about to turn in for the night, but if someone else hasn't clarified things for you or if you haven't quite figured it out yet I'll try to touch base again tomorrow and maybe give you a few more pointers. A couple very quick notes though. 1. Using the revolve tool you'll need to figure the exact x, y, and/or z location of the center of your shape to get revolve to work correctly. And when choosing the axis, imagine your item will be spinning around that particular axis to figure the correct one to use. 2. With a moulding all you have to do is draw the one profile (half your doorknob or whatever it is) and extrude around a very small circle (or inside a larger one). Then convert to symbol. Easy peasy.

Its possible using a Face and the Revolve tool. Its reasons like this though that I really think Chief needs a "Convert Molding To Solid" tool. It would make much quicker and easier work of things like this. Note: I'm assuming you need that to be a solid for some reason. If not, just use a molding polyline and maybe convert to a symbol. That would probably be easier.

I believe the issue you're experiencing should be considered a bug. When you uncheck "rotate with plan", the text itself stays put, but the center points of the 2 pieces of the label do NOT. I think it should be submitted to tech support. Due to the unique nature of those automatic 2-piece labels they need some programming added so that the center points of both pieces of the label recognize plan rotation. In the meantime, you might consider just using a Rich Text box with the appropriate macros... %room.name% %room.dimensions% %room.area.internal% That way all that text can be in a single box (which will rotate properly). PLUS, as an added benefit (using Rich Text instead of standard text) you can format the different items on a line by line basis.

Did you try to attach something? If so, it didn't attach.

Maybe post the plan so one of us can take a look.