Alaskan_Son

You're welcome. I don't quite know why that area needed a bearing line either. I wasn't too familiar with the plan though. There's probably some root cause that I missed, but the bearing line seemed to do the trick.

Hey Steve, If I studied it for enough hours I'm sure I'd probably find a better solution, but here's a quick video going over that method I mentioned...

I don't have time to get into it right now but that's a tricky one Steve. In short though, you need to use some invisible walls to separate that little area of the garage underneath the cantilever. It's the garage ceiling that's actually causing the problem. The garage ceiling framing is controlled by the floor above unless there is no floor above. You just need to change it so that there is no floor above the main garage area. Either that or remove the garage ceiling structure by deleting that framing layer.

I would personally recommend you don't screw around with the box window tool and instead build it using other methods.

I sent in a request quite a while back asking Chief to change this behaviour. It's really very silly. I would have actually assumed that was what the problem was except that in the original post it said "...the plate is aligned to the inside of the wall...". Anyway, the rule Chief seems to work with is this... So long as the foundation wall's main layer is located anywhere beneath the main layer for the wall above, the sill plate will center itself beneath that wall's main layer...unless the wall's main layer is thinner than the sill plate in which case I believe the sill plate will default to the outside edge of the foundation . We really need a lot more control over sill plates and sill plate placement. I find myself needing to manually modify those more and more. Anyway...if you want to leave auto framing turned on you can try using a wall definition like this... There may be other solutions too but that's probably as good as any.

To answer the original question though, how I create those extra members totally depends on how and where they are being used. I often prefer to check "Retain Wall Framing" and cut, copy, rotate, extend, trim, and otherwise modify framing directly in the wall detail.

Actually you are both wrong...and right. It goes onto your Current CAD Layer whatever that might be.

Can you post that plan? At least a stripped down version?

Are you possibly mixing up CAD Detail Management with CAD Block Management??

No...I was actually working in a blank plan with almost nothing in it except for 2 small symbols and maybe 2 matching CAD blocks. I think mine was a freak bug caused by the fact I was doing some pretty extreme things with the sizing of the symbol. Actually I had other bugs showing up during that process too. I didn't really explore it much because it honestly didn't surprise me that what I was doing might be causing the program to freak out. I had a symbol that was 0"x0"x0" and I was playing with various bounding box and stretch planes for that symbol. Anyway, it's a bit too much to go into but suffice it to say, my particular problem was definitely different.

You can also "Set affinty" in Windows Task Manager... You can control core usage for any and all tasks/apps this way.

I can't speak fro the OP but when I had that line showing up it wasn't actually anything in the plan. It was more akin to a cross-hair or temporary dimension that only showed up for short period during the actual zooming. While I would zoom (either in or out...don't remember which) with my mouse wheel it would all the sudden shoot out across the screen exactly like the OP shows. If I were to zoom back the opposite direction it would go away. I could go back and forth in that "magnification zone" and it would appear, disappear, and reappear. It certainly was NOT an item in the plan and could not be "followed". Now the OP's case may be different, I'm not sure. Mine was definitely bug like though.

Funny you bring that up. I've never once seen that before but I had it happen to me today. I was making a very small custom symbol and I lost track of it in the plan. For a little while it seemed EVERYTHING had disappeared and all I could occasionally get while zooming in and out was that single dark line you show. It just seemed like one of those freak things so I didn't investigate but i just thought I'd confirm. If you've gone crazy...you're not alone.

Years ago we framed many many cheap duplexes with that overlap just like that. It takes care of the shear transfer, the flashing, and the trim all that same time. It's really a very efficient and cost effective method. Now it's attractiveness may be up for debate.

And Option #4. Simply use the Delete Surface tool to temporarily delete the glass faces for those vector views. This might actually be the quickest and easiest option. Yep...this is probably what I will usually do from now on unless I need more accurate shadows in which case I think option #2 is better. This only took 4 clicks...

Just got back to the office and thought I'd throw a couple quick examples out there. Here's a couple quick examples using option #2 from above... And here's a quick example using regular glass polyline solids and option #3 from above... They're just quick examples and the latter obviously doesn't have the hardware but it should give you the idea. After playing around with it for a bit and testing the way shadows come into play, I'm really thinking I prefer Option #2 for everything except maybe ray traces. Here's the base symbol I used to create the shower panels for anyone who wants to try it out... Glass Panel example.calibz

There's definitely some funny things going on with framing layers in general. I haven't had the spare time or energy to write up anything useful for tech-support yet but I have wall framing turning itself on all the time in layer sets that I'm not even working in. It seems to be triggered by opening a wall or truss detail

The lack of transparency in vector views is a super annoying limitation to me. There are at least 4 options though... 1. Use walls and create you glass panels out of windows and doors. Glass in windows and doors CAN be displayed as transparent in vector views. 2. Create a custom symbol consisting of only a 2D beveled edge frame. Set the stretch planes and use that for your shower glass. Actually, in this particular case I guess all you would need to do is leave the frame and delete the glass. 3. Use the watercolor with line drawing rendering technique. You'll find that if you toggle textures off and play with the watercolor and line drawing settings that you can get something basically identical to a vector view...but with transparent glass.

Ed Zachary.

Not sure what your problem was with the ceiling plane solution. It worked for me. I just built it to your baseline though and not all the way out. With regard to the little trusses....They'll build them but IMO they are completely useless and a waste of money. Just sayin'.

Not sure I would consider that a bug. I think you're just trying to place a perhaps unreasonably small truss. It looks like you can get to about 16" from the exterior wall but anything closer than that is simply too small. Not saying the limitation should exist in Chief, but in all reality I don't recall having ever placed a hip jack any closer than 24" from the exterior corner.

Your hip trusses won't t build because there's no ceiling below. Trusses need a roof plane and a ceiling to generate between. Either specify the area below as a room with ceiling or manually draw a ceiling plane.

For the floor trusses, just force truss rebuild and then extend them. It looks like one way or another those particular trusses were lowered after the initial build...either that or your room structure settings were changed. The reason the wouldn't extend was that the lower cords were hitting the framing layer of the walls below.

Its not a perfect solution but try using an angled front cabinet and flip it around backward...

It all seems to be working just fine for me... Ray Trace Plot Lines Chopsaw, is it possible you have your framing layers set to be using either white or the invisible line style in that particular layer set?