Alaskan_Son

Can you post an example of your Master List? I'd like to see the duplicate items you're speaking of. I personally don't believe I've ever had any truly duplicate items in the same Master List. And by the way, there are lots of reasons a person might want to have seemingly duplicate items including but not limited to: Storing different pricing information for different Vendors Storing different pricing information based on minimum quantities (buying in bulk) Storing different pricing information for different localities Storing different pricing information for different client types Also, please make sure to report to tech support if something seems broken or doesn't make sense. If its broken and not enough people report it, its unlikely to get fixed, and even if its not broken, its good for them to know when people can't make sense of the instructions. That tells them that either the tool needs to be changed or that the documentation may need to be adjusted.

Again, its NOT using the ID number, its using the ID category. That number (F01, C01, etc.) is completely irrelevant. They already do ignore those numbers. Those are just unique line item identifiers for your particular Materials List or Master List. If you send and an "F01" Framing item from your current Materials List to your current Master List and you already have 10 framing items in there, then that item will be labeled F11 in the Master List. Again, those numbers aren't used for verifying a match. Its the ID category that's being used. This way a 1x8 piece of Pine identified as Framing won't be matched up with a piece of 1x8 identified as Interior Trim when querying the Master List.

If I simply search the word "master", "The Master List" is the first item in my search results. The information is all there. You can also find it under Materials Lists>The Master List Read my post again. I didn't say that they're not testing ID. What I said was that its not using the number as the ID. It's using the ID category as the ID. Its still testing for ID, its just not using the piece of information one might assume. I think you're understanding just fine. One of 2 things is likely happening....You've either found a bug that you should report, OR something is not actually matching even though you think it is. Is it possible that there's some subtle difference you may be overlooking? Don't forget to do this as close to the Default level as possible and the tedium should largely if not completely be eliminated for many objects.

By the way, just another side note. You don't have to depend on the Master List nearly as much if you: Properly utilize Structural Member Reporting (which can be used to automatically apply pricing information all on its own) Properly utilize the Components panel for various objects Modify your Components at the Default level whenever possible When Components can't be modified at the default level, utilize either the Library or objects that you have stored directly in your templates

A few notes: I honestly don't use the Master List on a consistent basis and haven't used in much in X14 so I'm not sure if there are currently other problems or not, but the ability to delete an item is definitely broken. I noticed that one a little while back as well. Aside from creating a new Master List, the closest thing we currently have is to Cut (Control+X). The row remains but at least its completely cleared out. With regard to the ID column: Chief isn't testing to see if the ID number matches (F1, F2, C1, C2, etc.), it's just checking for the ID category (Framing, Cabinets, etc.) so that little number is irrelevant. Per the Help files, Chief needs to see that the ID, Size, Description, and Label information all match before the item will Update to/from Master List. This may explain why you're having to enter information for multiple items. Something in one or more of those columns probably isn't matching. Per the Help files: If the Master List contains more than one record for an item, the program references the last one entered. You can override this by defining one specific entry as the default. In other words, the Default checkbox only comes into play when dealing with multiple entries for the same item. If after reading through the documentation properly, you find that something still isn't working as intended or expected, and you would like to see it fixed, then please take the time to report it to Tech Support.

@pattyw, I could be wrong, but in reading your posts it seems you may have it backward and that you're attempting to use the Master List as your final output. The Master List is like your pricing sheet or your reference sheet if you will. You store information about how you want specific items treated and then you update your Materials List using information previously saved in that Master List. Generate a Materials List Go through that Materials List and enter Price information for each line item Either one by one or as a group, select those rows and click the Update to Master List tool. Your Master List is now populated with pricing information that you can use on your next project. Fast forward to your next project... Generate a Materials List Either one by one or as a group, select your desired item(s) and click the Update from Master List tool. If the selected row matches an item already stored in your Master List, then the Price information will be automatically populated in your Materials List.

You’ve inadvertently switched to the Move Edit Mode. There’s a difference between switching edit modes and TEMPORARILY activating them using the pre-programmed hotkeys.

For what its worth, what you're really doing is just activating the Move Edit Mode in order to use any handle as the move handle. All the edit modes can be temporarily activated using built-in hotkeys which are shown between brackets right next to the tool under Edit>Edit Behaviors:

It seems to me like there's a big disconnect here between what you want and what Chief is actually doing; and that you want something completely different from what Chief ever intended to provide with type and sub-type. It sounds to me like you're really looking for information about what object type you're working with (window vs door vs lighting vs furniture, etc.). What Chief is providing however is what type the object is as it relates to its own category (right sliding vs left sliding, hinged vs. bifold, etc.). Sub-type on the other hand is completely for Plants which have checkboxes for various types and sub-types. I think where some of the confusion arises is that Chief for whatever reason reports the object type for certain objects (roof planes, polylines, etc.). Those are items that don't actually have a type as it pertains to their own category though so those would otherwise be blank. My 2 suggestions for you: Suggest tp Chief that they create an object_type attribute for all objects and make sure they know what you expect to see for some of the various objects. For example, there are all sorts of Interior Fixture objects. Would interior_fixture be sufficient, or should there be some additional information that you would need. Its imperative that you communicate exactly what you need the information for or Chief may well provide a solution that doesn't do what you need. For now, I would suggest that your best bet for speeding up the process would be using a Custom Object Information Field with a macro that parses from the object's description, layer, and/or any other object attribute(s) that can be used to help verify what type of object you're working with.

I actually do it both ways depending on the plan. It might help if you were to post an example plan showing the label issues you're seeing. The best solution may depend a bit on exactly which labels (and for which objects) you're referring to. I usually just uncheck Rotate with Plan though.

Why did you rotate in plan view instead of simply rotating in layout?

Not a bug. Its intended behavior and been that way as far back as I can remember. From the current Help Files: To delete a portion of a dimension line Select any Dimension Tool aside from Angular or Auto Exterior Dimensions. Manually draw a dimension line over the segment that you wish to remove, dragging from extension line to extension line.

Both now and in previous versions, would could also simple copy and paste.

You can also simply drop a Wall Schedule into the plan, select the row corresponding to the Wall Type in question, and then click Find in Plan.

Try using End to End Dimensions instead of Point to Point.

Please submit a bug report if you want to see this fixed.

There's 2 big things to think about here: Chief measure the baseline height from the top of the framing (NOT the top of fascia). This means you may need to take both sheathing thickness and fascia thickness into account. When dealing with multiple pitches and assuming the same size lumber if used for the corresponding components on each roof, you can only ever align ONE component horizontally. You can align top of rafter, you can align bottom of rafter, you can align top of sheathing, you can align bottom of sheathing, you can align fascia, or you can align subfascia. You can only pick one though. Something has to give. In the real world, in order to get pitches like this to line up we have to use different sized sub-fascia, shifted sub-fascia, clipped tails, etc.

Not automatic, but you can speed up the process using the following: Select the desired object(s) Convert Selected to Symbol>Show Advanced Options Use the Rotation settings to rotate the symbol so that its flat Drop the symbol into the plan Cross Section the symbol

3D views: Pattern tab, Horizontal and Vertical Offsets. Plan views: Fill Style tab, Horizontal and Vertical Offsets.

Can you expand on this?

I'm curious if Revit can actually do this either. This set of Revit drawings I have here on my desk for a current project has the callouts out of order and missing numbers in the sequence.

Attributes>Margins>Top and/or Bottom

If I understand correctly what you're saying, it isn't a Normal Map that you need. What you need is a proper Pattern. Patterns are used to create the lines on any vector based views (Vector, Technical Illustration, and Line Drawing). Textures are used for all other views.

Using triangular roof sections just like you've shown in this picture is how I've done complex roofs like this in the past. Its tedious. You have to map out the fascia shape and then use that information to set your baseline angles and roof pitches. Its doable but time consuming for certain. You can also cheat it with just a single roof plane (curved, pitched, and baseline tilted) but its not as accurate..

Who forced you to upgrade your video card?