Alaskan_Son

I'm not sure how you got where you did, but I believe the solution to your problem may lie in your wall type definition... Change that main layer thickness to 3.5" and you should be golden. As soon as you make the change everything appears to line up perfectly.

This is a great example of why the problem needs to be clearly communicated. I thought I understood the problem after the first post. Apparently I was wrong. The OP added an additional detail with mention of a "double paragraph" which I didn't understand. Then you helped me understand. Now it makes perfect sense to me...right? WRONG!! What I thought you were explaining apparently wasn't what I thought YOU meant either. This is the light I thought you had shed: This is how the text box appears in Word... This is what happens when that list is pasted into Chief... NOTE: The auto numbering does not seem to behave consistently when pasted into Chief from Word. In this particular instance the numbering remained auto once pasted into Chief but as you can see the numbering is no longer continuous. As I previously mentioned in my post above; in another test the top numbering remained sequential but the numbers below the added paragraph were no longer automated. If that weren't enough, in a 3rd test, I lost automation with ALL numbering. ...And this is done in Chief using the solution mentioned in Item #3 of my post above...

Here's a quick video...

I'll try to make a quick video when I have a chance. In the meantime, just a quick follow up... I had just a few spare minutes to test some things when I finally got back to the office this evening and here were some of my findings (all assuming Mark's explanation of the problem is correct): 1. Changing the line spacing for the one line doesn't actually seem to be a very good solution because it leaves us with no good way of controlling where that break occurs. 2. My assumption that a text macro might be a good alternative was a bad one too. Once the text box is closed, the new line macro just triggers a new numbered line. 3. What DOES work is this...Instead of trying to create the extra carriage return before moving on to the next item on the list, cause the next item to auto number FIRST and then go back, hit enter/return and under paragraph options switch from Numbered to None and set the left margin so that it lines up with the line above. Due to the fact you already continued the numbered list, the auto numbering below will simply continue on as usual. Actually, now that I think about it, there are circumstances where I use this same trick in Word too. 4. I tried copying and pasting the dual paragraph scenario from Word and I can immediately see the problem. The numbered list retains its automated behavior only up until the added paragraph at which time the numbering just becomes dumb text. I didn't have a lot of time to explore much further than that.

Try running your tests again, but this time zoom in and out while you have that text box activated.

P.S. Just a side note but monospaced fonts can also take up a lot more room than a standard or proportional font.

Mono-spaced or fixed width fonts are designed so that each and every character (numbers, letters, symbols, etc) takes up the exact same space. It's easy to test whether you're using a mono-spaced font or not by typing a series of 5 or 10 narrow characters (a period, lower case L, or an I for example), hitting enter/return, and then typing the same number of a wider characters. If it's a mono-spaced or fixed-width font than both lines of text should line up perfectly. It's this even spacing that alleviates the issues Johnny is mentioning. Courier is one of the most widely used mono-spaced fonts. I personally don't like the way most of those fonts look. They always make me think of the 80's...and typically not in a good, nostalgic way...more like in a "This is 2017, why does this text look like I something I produced with my Commodore?" way.

I'm thinking you might be right based on the OP's second post. The first post made no mention of paragraphs or line returns though. It also sounds like your suggestion is a good one to remedy the problem. Depending on the situation I might also consider using a simple text macro to add the newline instead of actually placing a carriage return in the text box. At any rate this request should be made a little more clearly and either posted in the suggestion forum or sent in to tech support. If the problem and suggested solution aren't abundantly clear and communicated to the appropriate party I can guarantee the requested capabilities will never be implemented.

I totally agree. I still don't understand the OPs problem though. I thought I did but apparently not. Does anyone else understand the problem?

I guess I don't understand what the problem is then.

That Quadro card actually IS an Nvidea card. Quadro is just an Nvidea workstation card series (as opposed to a gaming card).

2 things... If you bring your auto numbered list and either paste directly into the plan or paste into a RICH TEXT box, it should remain an auto numbered list. In case you don't realize this, you can create auto numbered lists directly from within Chief using Rich Text. Just click on Paragraph Option>Bullets and change the Type to Numbers.

Send me a quick sample plan and a screenshot or 2 illustrating the problem in a bit more detail and I'll see if I can squeeze in a quick video. Not sure what object types and blocks you might be dealing with, whether you're exporting in 2D or 3D, whether you're using colors or not, what you expect your DWG to look like, what view types you might be exporting, etc. Site unseen I'm guessing you're exporting simple 2D linework and that the best solution is to simply turn off layers you don't need and group delete a few remaining fills using the Match Properties tool.

For this particular exercise I was only going off the example posted in THIS thread which does appear to be a simple oblate spheroid. I do agree though...the one in the other thread is a different animal entirely.

Made it back to the office and decided to make a somewhat quick video on the subject... I didn't go over all the methods I mentioned but I went over a couple that I could pretty easily illustrate using the sample plan provided. It's worth noting that using roof planes has a lot of benefits in that the individual planes can be modified as necessary to further customize the roof. Not something I went over in the video, but after giving it a little more consideration, I think solids would probably be my method of choice. You could use the Revolve tool or you could create a series of solids using any number of other methods (even using a similar method to what I used to create the roof planes in the video). This would give you even more flexibility for future modifications to the structure.

There are a few ways to achieve that end result in Chief. I don't have a lot of time or I might make a quick video but here are a few things you might try... - Molding polylines. Basically draw the contour of your dome shape to create a molding profile. Then draw your circular molding polyline(s) using the dome shaped molding(s). - 2D Faces and the revolve tool. - A half sphere converted to a symbol and then resized. - I'm away from my computer so I can't test this right now but I think there is a way to use the sphere tool. I'll look into it when I get back to the office if I remember. - Molding polylines and the Face tool. This one is too complicated to describe in a simple text post (all I have time for right now) but in short, draw a series of circular elevation contours using molding polylines to create a sort of topographical framework and then draw the surface using the face tool which can snap to those molding polylines. - Use the terrain tools and convert to symbol. This could be an effective method but it's also pretty complicated as it typically requires creating several iterations of the terrain and then combining them into a single symbol. - Roof planes. Again...this is another pretty complicated method. You might consider contacting/hiring Yusef if you want to go this route. He's done quite a bit of pretty complex roof systems...more so than anyone else I know of anyway. In short though you need to start with some base roof planes then build a series of additional planes to fill it all on. For most all of the above methods it will be important to fully understand the geometry you're working with and to start with all the correct dimensions to avoid having to redo things. Hope that helps.

Thanks Scott I won't go into it in great detail, but one thing you can use that can be extremely handy is trusses. You can basically start with any truss configuration and then make manual edits to the truss detail to achieve all sorts of things. P.S. You can similarly use a wall framing detail to get a few additional capabilities. Sometimes I'll use a wall framing detail to add framing to surrounding areas.

I'm away from my computer so I can't actually test it out right now but I'm honestly not sure whether or not that can be done with an actual beam. I think it MIGHT be possible. I do know for certain that you can use a number of other object types to achieve that end result though such as p-solids, solids, standard framing members, extruded faces, molding p-lines, etc.

I'm just guessing here but I think the OP is talking about bent beams as in beams used to construct a structural bent (noun) like we do for timberframe structures...kinda like a truss that usually incorporates the wall framing or main support posts as part of the bent structure. Something like this but built using steel beams... I doubt he is referring to a beam that is bent (adjective). Now having said that, I still don't know what kind of symbols these might be. As I see it those bents would need to be custom built for each individual situation based on the material and beam type as well as the building dimensions and overall design. I would likely be using molding polylines as Joe suggested, p-solids, solids, some other primitive modeling tool, or a combination thereof.

Yes and no. The edge of the shear panel is where I would consider it to be most important, but it's really just the spacing in general that I'm referring to. If for example we are framing at 24" on center, I want to have a stud at every 24" increment no matter what. I will personally very rarely shift stud spacing for anything. If there is no stud on layout it can cause problems for insulation, wall sheathing, wall coverings, siding, trim, and all sorts of other things.

I would personally want to see 4 things at an exterior corner like that... 1. A stud that lands ON LAYOUT for exterior sheathing and siding reasons as well as to provide proper bearing in some circumstances. 2. Drywall backing. 3. Something to tie the corner together in such a way that limits movement and therefore potential drywall cracks or screw pops in the future. 4. A little less important, but access for insulation and wiring purposes. There are a good handful of alternative methods, but in my opinion Chief has chosen what I feel is the single best compromise with that rotated end stud.

Sorry guys, but I don't think thats what it is. That setting simply changes the automated corner intersection behaviour and has nothing to do with the stud layout per se. With that setting checked, all horizontal walls are automatically framed through like this... With the setting unchecked, all VERTICAL walls automatically frame through like this... The corner framing configuration on the other hand is MOSTLY (see note below) the result of how the layout lands. If the layout of the last stud lands somewhere over the designated spacing (24" in this case) then you get the rotated stud... ...If the layout of the last stud lands somewhere UNDER the designated stud spacing then you get a normal corner... I'm not necessarily agreeing with the behaviour and have previously suggested some improvements in this particular area myself. I'm just explaining how I understand it to work. NOTE: I said "MOSTLY" because the behaviour does seem to be a little inconsistent. It does however always seem to be the result of layout landing just over or just under the set stud spacing.

Wow. That's really cool. Had no idea we could create a schedule like that for an individual detail. Thanks for the tip!

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Here's a really good description of how pattern files work and how you can write them yourself without the need for any additional software... http://www.apertedesign.com/2011/12/customizing-pat-files/ There are also a small handful of pattern file generators online. Just do a quick search and you should probably find something you can use. This guy (or gal) came up with a pretty ingenious method using excel... http://www.cadhatch.com/hatch-pattern-generator/4588167700