Alaskan_Son

Okay, now I'm confused again. Do you actually want 2 lines in the CELL or do you want 2 lines in the TITLE? Or do you actually want 2 lines in both?

Interesting. FWIW, depending on the situation there are other ways to get newlines as well such as... " "

Okay. Now this is starting to make more sense to me. You're trying to affect the page title without affecting the schedule? I think there is another way. I'll try to help you out when I get back to my computer. In short though I'm thinking you need to use a newline macro that contains a conditional statement of some sort.

I'm away from my computer so I can't test anything but here are a couple quick notes from my personal experience. 1. Using newlines to affect schedules is hardly useful. I've played with it when trying to achieve some unusual outside the box type solutions but I don't believe I recall having ever actually ended up using it. 2. To get multi-line cells I usually add spaces and not newlines. If you add the appropriate number of spaces and adjust the column width appropriately you should probably be able to get what you're after that way.

Yup. This is likely the source of your problem. I'm away from my computer right now but until the problem is fixed I would try these potential temporary solutions... -Reflect in plan view instead of the elevation view. OR After the initial left to right reflect, try to reflect again in a plan view but this time in the top to bottom direction. OR After the initial reflect, convert back to a plain polyline and then convert to a polyline solid from that. I know...all workaround solutions but they might just help keep you moving forward at least.

Polyline solids have had some buggy behavior in the past. Some of it has been fixed but maybe you found a situation that is still not behaving properly. Probably a good idea to send in to tech support detailing EXACTLY what you did to create the second group. On a side note though...Are you sure you actually used Polyline solids for the second group? Is it possible you used a slab, box, or some other object? Anyway, I would probably personally do as Eric suggested and just convert to a solid. A lot more possibilities that way anyway.

Mike, you don't have to explode anything. Just select your mulled unit in the area where the individual component window is and then hit tab to actually select the component window. Once selected, open it's DBX and uncheck "Include In Schedule". Do that for all offending windows. That should be all there is to it.

Good sleuthing Chop : ) I had just opened the plan, had added the Room Name column to the schedule and was just beginning to search the living room when you posted. The reason the labels don't show up is because "Show Component Labels" would have to be checked in order for that to happen. EDIT: I see Eric mentioned the Room Name thing too while I was typing up my response. I guess I showed up a little late this time. Good job guys.

Thanks Shane. That's very kind of you.

You're very welcome.

Get into the habit of switching your annotation set (or at least your Current CAD layer) before clicking the Auto Detail tool. This way, all that Auto Detail CAD can be placed onto its own unique layer. Then when you want to delete all that auto detail stuff all you have to do is switch to your All Off layer set, turn on just that one layer, select all, and delete. In fact, do this... Create an Auto Detail CAD layer Create an Auto Detail Layer Set that has everything turned off (or at least locked) EXCEPT for your Auto Detail CAD layer Create an Auto Detail Annotation Set and set it to use the Auto Detail CAD layer as its Current CAD layer and the Auto Detail Set as its layer set. Switch to the Auto Detail Annotation Set before clicking Auto Detail Go about your business as usual and switch back to whatever anno set you wish for all future annotations If you decide you want to refresh your Auto Detail work, simply switch back to your Auto Detail Anno Set, select all (Control + A), delete, and then click Auto Detail again.

When you click on the wall in a 3D view, by default the ROOM is selected first. Either hit tab to select the wall or go into preferences and change the behaviour here...

Depends on how accurate you need to get. I personally like accuracy and think the 2 best options are... Polyline solids applied to the surface or multiple walls and material regions set to cut finish layer. Maybe check this thread out... P.S. I think it's important to understand how that style of siding typically works. The panel layout is pretty much always designed around the particulars of each individual structure and even each individual wall. Without giving careful consideration to the layout you can very easily miss the mark. The reason I bring all this up?? Just to point out why the chances land somewhere between slim and none that you will find a material/texture that will do the trick. Besides all that, even if a random layout worked...the recessed shadow lines are really what make that look pop and the only way to get those looking correct at all your outside corners is using a 3D modeling technique of one type or another. Just my $0.02

Many many many ways to go about this but here's my take on one of the quickest and easiest to use methods... Watertop example.plan The 2 side pieces are cabinets that are essentially nothing but a tall countertop. I placed them onto their own layer so the display could be adjusted and I excluded from schedule. Flexible, easy to keep track of, and very simple to adjust as necessary. Just add to your library or toolbar for quick future use.

Hey Johnny, before I head out the door this morning, here's a quick example of a solution that doesn't require any custom macros. There are a lot of potential uses for this type of thing, it's really easy to set up, you could use any number of object types and schedules, and you could even use this as nothing more than a special sort of custom text box by just dropping the associated symbols off to the side somewhere. It obviously has it's advantages and disadvantages, but probably something good to have in your toolbox nonetheless... Custom Schedule Example.plan

You can click on your material's pattern tab and use the same pattern there. This will work for all vector views. For standard views and ray traces however you would need to find a Flemish Bond texture

Did you check the example plan I posted in this thread? I think it will suit you better. Anyway, yes...almost any numbering or lettering style is possible but anything outside the 01, 02, 03 scheme would have to be a little less automated. As I mentioned above you would have to choose between keeping the schedule full auto and manually placing matching callouts in plan OR keeping both tied together at the expense of losing the ability to easily renumber your schedule. All solutions would likely require some custom macros but once set up I also think all of the aforementioned solutions would be faster, easier to manage, and more automated than what you're doing now. Just shoot me an email if you want help setting it up.

Yep. I think Johnny realizes this but again...what you see in your text box does not match what you see in the plan or layout. It can just be very difficult to keep track of proper alignment with things working as they currently do.

Johnny, I don't really have an answer for you as far as actually seeing what you get with the text boxes however here are a few quick ideas you could play around with... Using actual objects and their related schedules instead of text boxes. There are a lot of options in this regard. Here's a really quick example before I head out the door... Footnote Example modified.plan NOTE: The title and gridlines could be included with the schedule itself but I know how particular you can be so I just included those as separate items so they look more like what you were showing. The lettering in lieu of numbering could also be automated but only in the schedule. If you're okay with sticking to a numbered sequence (with or without a prefix) then the associated callouts are automated as well (as they are in the attached plan). EDIT: Lettering in lieu of numbering could actually be automated so that the callouts and schedule both matched by creating a unique CAD block for each item but they would have to be manually set the first time around and would not automatically re-order themselves if you decided to rearrange the schedule (you would have to re-assign the appropriate CAD blocks to each symbol as necessary). Copying grids from Word (or other program) and pasting into your Rich Text box. This gives you much more control. The problem is that you either have to mask the gridwork (you won't like it and we have no control over the display) or you can just do a little post processing to delete it (I just us a PDF editor after printing to PDF to do this type of thing. Use side by side text boxes for the different columns instead of one big text box.

This is only true under the perfect circumstances. Try slowly zooming in and out while you have that Edit Rich Text In Place DBX open and you'll see the layout jump all over the place.

Mary Anne, Here's what I typically do... While in plan view switch to your All On layer set. Make sure all the layers are actually turned on by going into your Layer Display Options, clicking Select All, and then checking Display. Hit Control + A (or Edit>Select All). If you do this one floor at a time, you should eventually find that your selection includes something way out in the distance. Pan and zoom to the outside corners of that selection box till you find your culprit. NOTE: You can optionally hit F6 (or Window>Fill Window) after selecting all but I find that it's just as easy to just zoom out with your mouse wheel....besides, if you manually zoom out till you can see your whole selection, you will be much more familiar with where you are in the plan. Depending on how many stray objects you have and where they are located, you may need to repeat step 3 for one or more floors. Hope that helps.

Tons of ways to do this type of thing. Here are a just a few that come to mind...

Yup. This is what I typically do as well (except that I COPY instead of cut). Depending on the view type or objects in view I will also oftentimes draw a reference line in layout to mark the bottom left corner (or any other static location), create a CAD Detail From View, copy the desired snap point from that CAD Detail and Paste/Hold Position back into layout. You can then select the layout box and use Point To Point Move. Then you can Cut/Paste Hold Position your original reference line from one page to the next and repeat the CAD Detail Step as necessary.

Yep. Actually, its the ONLY one of the options not available during the normal Convert To Symbol process. Seems silly.

Okay, I see why now. That doesn't work when you import as a parametric object like a cabinet. I was just thinking of normal symbols. Good tips by the way. I've been meaning to make an advanced symbol modification video myself going over some of these things but haven't found the time just yet. As you seem to well understand there is A LOT that can be done to modify existing symbols especially when harnessing the power of stretch planes/zones along with delete surface and multiple generations. Good stuff.