Alaskan_Son

This is a bug. It works if you FIRST select a material default and then pick another material.

You can just rename them in your project browser or in the label itself.

Those plot lines can be controlled a number of ways. If you have Use Edge Line Defaults and Use Pattern Line Defaults unchecked, then those plot lines are all produced based on the line weight and color settings of the individual layers. This means you can get gray lines by simply using a layer set with all the layers set to gray (and the line weights set to your liking). If you have Use Edge Line Defaults and Use Pattern Line Defaults checked, then I'm not personally aware of any way to get the color to default to gray. I think you have to open the layout box and just change it there every time. NOTE: Chief Architect doesn't actually recommend using Edge Line or Pattern Line Defaults... "The Edge and Pattern Line Defaults settings are included for legacy files and are not the recommended method of specifying these line styles. See Edge and Pattern Lines."

3D>3D View Defaults--Uncheck "Always Display Active Cameras"

Because of the added ability to reshape a layout box.

You are correct Eric. This would change things. I guess I was just assuming based on the information provided that this was not the case in this particular situation. I could be mistaken though

What exactly are you arguing? I haven’t been offering opinion or conjecture...just hard facts. I think you just might have a mental block keeping you from seeing it. Here’s what you said... This is simply not possible unless you changed (either purposely or accidentally) the pitch setting in you wall’s roof pane and if you did, then Chief would be working exactly as designed to build all the roof planes at a 4/12 It’s really not any more complicated than that. Open one of your walls that seems to be misbehaving. If you don’t see a “(D)” in the pitch field then you’ve found your problem and confirmed what 3 or 4 of us are trying to tell you. Directly from the Reference Manual...

Specifically with regard to the pitch setting, this is not true. There is a default pitch setting in the Build Roof dialog, but the roof will always obey the wall settings. It's only when the wall settings are set to default (D) that the default pitch in the build roof dialog will be obeyed. This is not true either. The roof setting in the wall dbx is what tells the roof how to build...including hips. It has always worked this way and I can't imagine any reason to change it. Again...if you want all your roof planes to obey the default pitch in your Build Roof dialog, then you need to set the pitch in your walls' roof settings to use default (D). 4:12 No question. You can and will only get the results YOU are expecting if you make sure the pitch in your walls' roof tab are set to use default (D).

Tom's suggestion is a good one, but here's another (depending on what exactly you need). You can also just set the bounding box for your symbol to something super small. Just make sure you change the size of the object to match. Biggest downside is that it can be difficult to select the object if you don't remember exactly where the bounding box is (back and center unless you purposely change that).

Maybe I'm missing something, but as some of the others have already pointed out, this is completely expected behaviour. Having a non-default pitch in your wall's roof settings will always override the default pitch. Sounds to me like you just need to reset your walls to the default pitch. Just switch to a wall tool, marquis select all your walls, open the dbx, click on the roof tab, and just enter the letter d into the Pitch field. Just a guess, but someone either changed the pitch in one or more individual wall definitions, changed the pitch in one or more of the wall defaults, or you're pulling a wall style from the library and that wall definition has a non-default pitch assigned.

Sent you a PM.

You have a schedule in the plan. Open that schedule, click on the label tab and uncheck Use Callout For Label.

Probably best to post a plan file for one of us to take a look at.

Really? Are you kidding me? You said "It only has to catch one person out one time to be an important behavior that should be changed." and then you went on to say " by all means don't wait until enough people note it because most users will not report bugs - or any other unexpected behavior but once discovered it seems it should be of the highest priority." So your suggestion is that it only needs to affect one person one time and that simply discovering that it is a problem for that one user somehow warrants that it be made top priority and moved to the front of the list. This is simply unreasonable by any measure. I understand that this is a major issue to some of you guys and I sincerely hope it gets addressed for you, but I don't see how its above debate or how it deserves a higher spot on the list. There are plenty of us who have major issues with countless other things in Chief. This particular one is a non-issue for me and many others who take time to report our concerns so it needs to be fairly prioritized accordingly. By the way, I'm kinda curious...why do you guys insist on using modified PDF's that have the same name? I'm honestly not trying to be argumentative. It just seems like good practice to modify the name if the file has been changed.

A world where everything is always the highest priority. A mathematical impossibility but wouldn’t that be great!?

My thoughts exactly. I personally never expected any of my picture files or PDFs to update automatically. That’s just me though. Having the option is a good suggestion but I certainly don’t think it qualifies as a bug just because SOME people expect something different.

I can tell you from extensive experience in this arena that reported bugs very commonly get fixed. Unreported bugs pretty much never get fixed. For the reported bugs that do not get fixed, I believe that it's usually a matter of priorities. If only 1 person is reporting a bug and 4 people are reporting another, which one do you think is going to get fixed? Take the wall hatching bug for example. I'm assuming Richard has reported it, but has anyone else? If that bug is the result of a notable programming flaw that would take a substantial amount of time to fix and only one or 2 users are reporting it, I don't know that I would want to spend much time fixing it either. "Why would we?" To make sure Chief knows about it. "Why should we?" To help increase the likelihood that it will get addressed. There was one easily reproducible and non debatable bug in particular that really annoyed the crap out of me that I reported multiple times. It remained unfixed for years though. Why? I honestly believe I may have been the only user who was reporting it. It finally got fixed (either in X9 or X10 I think), but my point is that if other users had taken time to report it, maybe I wouldn't have had to report it 4 or 5 times and raise a major stink to get it taken care of. Do us all a favor and just report this stuff. If you do and it doesn't get fixed, at least you know you've done what you can. If you don't and it doesn't get fixed, well...

This ^^^^ is a pretty bad one too. Not a matter of opinion, not debatable, not subjective in any way...just not important enough to fix I guess (insert sad emoji shaking its head).

This is not true. The extrusion shape can be edited from either end (left/right, front/back, or top/bottom), and in ANY view where you can see the extrusion profile (from either end). This includes almost any perspective view (so long as your camera is positioned in such a way that the appropriate face can be selected), opposing elevation views, angled elevation views, and orthographic overviews.

Chief actually does this with many referenced files. I imagine they're doing it to help speed the program up, but it's certainly a liability from a drafting standpoint and can be very limiting.

And also...HOLY COW!!! There's no shortage of stuff going on there. Looks like a lot of work.

Here's how to recreate what I did in the image in my earlier post. Create a Plan Footprint CAD Detail from the first floor using CAD>Plan Footprint. Select that Plan Footprint Polyline, open the Plan Footprint Specification dialog, uncheck Display Plan Details, and then specify a Fill. While still in the Plan Footprint CAD Detail, create another Plan Footprint by clicking on CAD>Plan Footprint again. You will be prompted to select a floor number. This time select the second floor. Select that new Plan Footprint Polyline, open the Plan Footprint Specification dialog, check Display Footprint Polyline and Display Plan Details (should already be checked), and specify the desired Fill. NOTE: For more control over whats displayed on the floor with the Plan Details, check Use Current Layer Set To Display and either use the appropriate layer set for that CAD Detail, or create a new one from scratch.

...and don't forget the new Inserts Into Wall option for symbols either. That one is a pretty versatile tool.

Try to update your video card driver.

Thanks for the plug Eric. To the OP: Yes, this can be done using a custom macro in the room label, but I can also be done using another special tool I created. The latter will even pick up on custom ceilings planes. Anyway, both methods require custom macros. Just shoot me an email at alaskansons@gmail.com if you want to discuss further.