DRyeHD

@JKEdmo I toggled the "roof over this room" a couple of times and the ceiling planes appeared.  I'm not sure how that works.  @DBCooper thanks for the input.  That fixed the soffit (beam) issue.  I'm back in business on this project thanks to you two!

@JKEdmo I need to update my title block.  I'm using X16.  I'll take a look at the video and see if there's something I'm missing.  Thanks.

@JKEdmo thanks for taking a look at this.  I toggled "Roof Over This Room" off and still don't see the ceiling planes.  I've checked to make sure they are supposed to be displayed and they should be....hummm.  I wonder why I'm not seeing them?  Can you get the "beam" to go flush with the ceiling plane?

I've spent about 3 hours trying to figure out why ceiling planes (to make a cathedral ceiling in this living room) won't display.  I had some beams (soffits) in there and I've left one.  But I can't get the "beams" placed under the ceiling plane (which won't display).  It seems there is something at 11'-11" that prevents them from going to the ceiling - but I can't see that either.  I've never had trouble with ceiling planes before but this has got me stumped.

I've attached the plan file.  Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

Klimuk.zip

@CharlesVolz thanks for the input.  I had used the Reset To Defaults tool but maybe that doesn't catch the attic walls?  I also cleaned up that attic wall to make it one continuous wall (see attached).  But I noticed in yours that you can only bring the roof down to the outside brick line.  If you try to pull it all the way down, CA pulls the roof line back from the roof all the way up.  Anyway, thanks for the solution.  I'll know what to do if this happens again.

I've got another problem with a plan I'm working on.  Per the attachment, I can't get the roof to pull up against an exterior wall.  I put a break on both planes and can pull the top part in but not the very bottom.  I see what looks like a ceiling plane on the back side and I think this may be the problem but I can't figure out how to fix it.  I've attached the .pln file if anyone can give me some input.

Brunk3.zip

Well I fixed the adjoining roof.  I didn't have the main roof plane pulled all the way to the attic wall under the shed roof.  I still need input on the shadow board on the main gable.  TIA!

I have this issue regularly and have searched the ChiefTalk forum with no success.  How do you get the shadow bard to extend (continue) past a wall below or an adjoining roof as in the attached sample?  I'm sure it's easy but I can't figure it out.

@Alaskan_Sonand @TeaTime thanks for the input.  My customer wanted an elaborate porch then decided to go with what you saw.  I guess that caused the dining room problem.  As for the garage, I'll take a look at that.  After five years of using CA I still have problems with foundations.  I need to get my head wrapped around what all the DBX inputs do.  Thank you both.

I'm not sure what I did but I've got a couple of rooms without floors.  One is defined (garage), the other is not (dining).  I noticed that the exterior room line has some overlaps that I don't think should be there.  I've attached the file.  If anyone can take a look and let me know what I did wrong, I'd sure appreciate it.

Brunk.zip

@para-CADI just watched this video.  Lots of good information.  Thanks for posting.  I'm trying to determine the best way to incorporate a 2nd monitor.

28 minutes ago, DRyeHD said:

@GeneDavisI've not worked much with 3D mouldings.  When you say you paste the 2D CAD detail in the live section and make the molding, could you break that down in a few steps?  I've got the 2D CAD from view, but don't know what to do next.

@GeneDavisI got it using a 3D moulding.  I like this because I can save it as one of my custom windows and reuse it as a unit.

I still don't understand about pasting the 2D CAD detail in the live section.  I just did a 3D moulding on one side, adjusted it so it looked right and drug it around the other two edges.  It looks good and will work for other plans.  Thanks.

17 hours ago, ValleyGuy said:

I've done this before with placing a pass through (with frame and trims, w/o a label) in the wall with frame to fit wall checked. Build both windows separately w/o trims, w/ frame recessed 1" - uncheck fit to wall. Mull together and add the desired label. Center it in the pass through. It doesn't mull the mulled unit to the pass through, so you'll need to move both items, but it looks good.

 

@ValleyGuythanks for the advice.  I stepped right through this and it works great.  I still want to learn @GeneDavis' method.  I need more practice with 3D moldings anyway.

On 6/3/2024 at 9:55 PM, GeneDavis said:

Unblock the windows.  Open both and go to frame tab.  Make sure "fit frame to wall" is unchecked.  Play with inset and frame depth until things look good, then block/mull.

 

When this is done, you will lose the surround of the unit, and let's think real world build 3D.  Such a window unit will have head, jamb, and sill jamb extenders.  You can create the right look with a 3D molding.  I do a 2D wall elevation and get my perimeter by going CAD detail from view, then paste it in place in the live section, and make the molding.

@GeneDavisI've not worked much with 3D mouldings.  When you say you paste the 2D CAD detail in the live section and make the molding, could you break that down in a few steps?  I've got the 2D CAD from view, but don't know what to do next.

21 hours ago, GeneDavis said:

Here ya go.  I gave the extender a color.  Five minutes twenty two seconds, would have been quicker if I had closed my other Chief files with all the open views.

This is the first time I've had to do this in an ICF wall.  You're right, 5.5 minutes is not too long.  I just didn't know how to go about it.  Thanks again!

@GeneDavis that sounds like a lot of work.  I'll step through that and may try to save it in my library in case this comes up again.  Thanks for the input!

I've mulled  fixed window and an awning window in an ICF wall.  The mull wants to be the depth of the wall.  I've tried to change the mullion depth in the DBX but it doesn't seem to do anything.  Is there a way to adjust this mull to a normal depth?

@robdyck and @MarkMc thanks for the ideas.  I'm going to try both!

A customer wants a custom stove exhaust cover.  I'm close by using a cabinet with peninsula radius.  The problem is that i need a smaller radius on the corners (probably 6-12") to allow enough room for the actual exhaust fan.  I can't find a way to decrease the radius.  Is there another method that would be better to create this in CA?

23 hours ago, robdyck said:

Shift select the upper stair portion, go to Railing Tab and uncheck Railing On Left. Keep in mind that the handrail on the left side will still have its upper termination in the same location (where the hand rail and railing meet). For a proper handrail, you would need to add another 3d molding!

Robert, thanks for this input also.  I'm seeing where the 3D molding is useful when you don't want the default CA solution.

23 hours ago, robdyck said:

The main issue here is that the Open Below room and the Bonus Room don't have the same floor and ceiling elevations. The Open Below room is using the default elevations for the 2nd floor while the Bonus Room and Mech Rm are using customized floor and ceiling elevations.

 

The mistake here is not setting the default elevations for the 2nd floor to match what you want (i.e. the Bonus Room elevations). Fortunately, it's never too late to fix this!

Make a note of your desired floor and ceiling elevations and adjust the defaults for the 2nd floor. Don't forget to also adjust the floor structure default for the 2nd floor.

 

Go to  Default Settings> Floors and Rooms> Floor Levels> 2nd Floor and set these values to be the same as the Bonus Room.

This will update any room on the 2nd floor that is using the default values! After that, make sure the Bonus Rm and Mech Rm are set to use the default value as well.

Lastly, make sure the Open Below room has "Flat Ceiling" checked.

 

By the way, you have rooms on the main floor that don't have the correct ceiling height! You'll need to thoroughly inspect these to make sure everything is built correctly. From what I can tell, all main floor rooms should have the default floor and ceiling elevations.

Robert,  thanks for taking the time to not just give me a solution, but to explain what's going on.  I fixed the upstairs.  Now I'm going to re-read it so I understand, then fix the downstairs.

I took a snow day yesterday.  We got over 2 inches and lots of things were closed.  It was also MLK day, my wife was off for the holiday.

Thanks again!

4 hours ago, DBCooper said:

Maybe a molding polyline?  You may also be able to just set a handrail for the lower stair section and none on the upper one when you add the complete break for #3.  FYI, if you want to change the settings for one stair section and not another, all you need to do is shift-select it and open the stair dialog.  

@DBCooper I haven't used 3d molding polylines much but I know they are useful.  Thanks for the tip.  It worked great!

2 hours ago, robdyck said:

Yes, I see that I could have been clearer about that!

No problem.  Using your suggestions, I've got it about 90% the way it needs to be.  I've attached how it currently looks and an updated .pln file.  Here are two more questions:

1.  How do I get rid of the left wall rail on the upper portion of stairs and keep the lower left (open) railing?

2.  Somehow, my room divider at the top of the stairs is messing up my 2nd floor ceiling.  What am I doing wrong here?

Millar2.zip

Just now, robdyck said:

Have you made a complete break to the stairs? The upper portion of the stairs has to fit between the walls.

I did make the break but I didn't adjust the top portion.  I though your input was a different idea than @DBCooper.  Now I understand that it is in addition to.  I will work with this and see what I can do.  Thanks...I'll let you know how it turns out.

1 hour ago, robdyck said:

This wall transition can be adjusted in section view, however Chief will not build the railing to match the walls, rather the railing will still match the stairs.

@robdyck I made the Open Below room on the 2nd floor as you suggested.  I put a break in the first floor wall under the stair so I could adjust it in section view as you suggested.  I can't seem to pull that portion of the wall up to meet the ceiling above.  I've tried a few other things to make it work with no success.  Any idea what I may be doing wrong?