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Mark thanks, I didn't know that. But please make it some more clearer regarding how to. Thanks again

As a picture, I think you can select the exel tables and paste it simply. That is all me knows about this case. OK if you are working on terrain? Yesss, there is a way.

Interesting Mick, it looks real combination.

Thanks ShaneK.

Thanks Yusuf - this is very interesting and I didn't even think of using a roof poly. I will check this out and try it. Thanks johnny, I am glad if that helps. Here is it, https://youtu.be/6q3-nGUJEU0

Actually yes, it was posted on my YouTube channel. It is a short vid with bad resolution. I will post a HQ one with "how to". but I think the plan is more helpful for now since it is just a roof that makes the trick. battered wall.plan

Sure Joe, you are about the opening. You started, let's continue questions and answers session, what do you think the white casing is?, what is the framing also? $-- question.

OK nice ones Johnny is doing great job in ca. My take on battered walls, some times I post the apples while the apples are needed. I used my favourite tool(roof) combined with walls.

Perry, I don't thing so. No solids and pline solid! Chief has the tools post, beam, footing etc. Just put it as walls. And I can assure you the way you model concrete beams in revit is the same to chief's. No solids I repeat! What chief doesn't do is the structural calc and Rebar detailing, but the basic modelling isn't time taking. 3D model based Drafting is how chief simplifies the 2d drawings. Pick and put in place , using replicate, transform and paste hold position works from one storey to the next and so on and Architects can use it easily, I am not comparing it with Revit, but works prety well for me. BTW I am engineer at the same time and use STAAD PRO for the structural analysis.

Greg, thanks for sharing.

".....I guess you could design the structure using all p-line solids but that's not my bag. I'm pretty sure Yusuf uses Chief just for the 3d stuff..." Perry you are really missing this stuff in ca! Must watch this video and at least see how it does, sure it isn't that Much behind the Revit it self as you believe. Beam,column,slabs are easy to model as you see .........admit this time Mr Peru! https://youtu.be/pBvgneGYFfY

So I guess you are talking about RC frame 'modelling'.And I got you now what you mean by saying this Perry ".....I guess you could design the structure using all p-line solids but that's not my bag. I'm pretty sure Yusuf uses Chief just for the 3d stuff..." You are saying this stuff(in the picture) is simply a 3D. I think I got you now, I remember in an old thread you also raised this framing isn't easy. Hopefully I am not mistaken?

Thanks, Dennis and Perry, but I didn't get what exactly Perry is asking by saying ".....we have to also show the structure and how its built, there is more than just 3d views. I know ,Yusuf has to then go to another program to do this, It would be nice if Chief could also do the structure....." Design or drafting?, chief does the later pretty well if one person can do the whole Arch,Structure and MEP plans(excluding smaller homes that any one in the industry can do). But I think designing structure is the engineers task and Revit Arch doesn't do structural design.

Mick, thank you for the appreciate. I would be glad, please pass the application to head office, that was my dream ....kkk. If any one likes to experiment on the test plan. Here is the flower house roof plan.roof and shapes.zip

very nice ones, I like it.

Thanks, Larry and Greg for the appreciate. Some times people argue mixing the user capability with software capability, for complex geometry it is not the software that matters but ones understanding about what he want to achieve is more important. For instance, I didn't took time to model this in chief compared to the time it took me to comprehend what the Vw expert was about to achieve(though it is a video and not sketch with dimensions) following his VW process. Then I defined the process in chief that would make me get the output and done it. Here you see the power of the roof plane and the potential capabilities of chief to improve its process. I know what the tools in chief can do. and I woudnt even try if there wasn't the roof tool that can do most of the geometries used in building industry. Any way I suggest chef to add a roof extract tool that let's us to control the edges of the roofplane apart from the angles and and the other controls that currently exist, in general chief should move forward and it really can touch the sky. Thanks

This is not an extended video, just to show the extent we can create ecomplex roof geometries using chief. This is an example like the VW one johnny shared here. https://youtu.be/bEsGg_nPAzA

johnny, on 06 Aug 2015 - 9:27 PM, said: I can't have CA take a shape I made and make it a roof....or I can't have a shape become a wall etc. I realize there are some things you can get to behave like and object, but that is very limited from what i've seen in CA. Why would you want to do that instead of using Chief's tools for those things? Chief can make those items so much faster. Let me give you an example: I do log homes and have a set of Log Symbols that i use to stack a wall just like it would be built in the real world. But Chief won't recognize those as a wall. So I created a single thickness (log size) wall type using a transparent material. I build the house using those transparent walls, insert all my doors and windows and then start placing my Log Symbols centered on those walls. I stretch them to the correct lengths and replicate as needed vertically. IOW, I build my Log Walls just like I would in the real world but the Transparent Walls are what Chief recognizes as the boudaries of my structure. You're a creative guy - don't fight Chief, use it to your advantage. ___________________________ As Joe says, there is nothing that you can't do in chief. Here is one like your earlier videos, the walls follow the shape as you see in the picture. More complex geometry could be done in chief, I think only the horse geometry may be tough to try in chief, and I advise to never underestimate the power of roof planes in chief. That doesn't mean I don't support pushing chief to get improved, I agree with all the valuable ideas forwarded.

I have posted this a topic similar to this one in the old forum, some time I start with concept 3d exteriors from some stufs I have already done(made symbol) and triggers ideas to flow smoothly and watch my perspective view when shaping and floor planning both at a time. Here is an example of it. And the outcome is totally different from the starting concept and again it becomes the idea generator for an other one to come.

Thanks for the feedback, I will improve the sound issues.

Mick, I was logging in to the forum some times simply to see that you are there and asking my self if there was some thing unusual happened to you. Any way praying for you to regain your health, well come back and Probably the count down was up to 30 days, then would start search for the gentle man missing.

Good job, Try ramps. I explained it in earlier threads.

Here is the plan, I checked it is not easily changing by it self. Display the Zattic. att.plan att f.plan

Giving up quickly on chief is not good, I think I have found stable one. Let me check it.

Johnny, flat roofs are what we do here whether a slab roof or very small pitch roof. The roof tool is very flexible and for example, i have attached the pic of a house I am working on and still under modeling, and the final look may be totally different from this one. I use chief for idea analysis. and don't forget using the shadow boards for various purposes. The other image is an office building with slab roof I have done during the x2 era.