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I'm suggesting other finishes because I'm not a fan of doing drywall on the outside. The reason would be that its the least expensive way to go. I'm suggesting to do a nice 1x8 T&G painted or stained. Like this job I just did. This is IPE wood so I would suggest pine because it is a lot less cost.

Yes, Green Board, I'm assuming your talking about? Or is there another product I don't know about?

Or you can live in the fire safe areas along with the "Brown Cloud" (smog). LOL As much as I don't like the congestion of CA I love the weather and resources are unlimited! Mountains, lakes, oceans, deserts…. All close traveling distance

California Question I have a customer that wants to do drywall with a hand texture on his patio ceiling. I have seen it done in Parker Arizona on a river house but not much out here in California. Is that a no no or is it ok to do? The cover for the patio is actually the second floor above it. This is not my design

It is interesting hearing about different peoples opinions and from different areas of the country. If you really want to make the money in Architecture and/or Design (I say design because that is what unlicensed people call themselves) California is the place to be but as always California go's to the extreme with regulations and the homeowners pay for it. The cost for plans and permits and all the other red tape I find to be about 10 to 20% of the building cost. To me that is crazy! Before you would even begin a $100,000.00 job it will cost the homeowner 10 to 20k. I can handle 10% but anything more then that seems to be a total waist of money. Example of waist of money: The latest in the wonderful world of Whittier, CA is that before you can submit a plan to the building department for a room addition they make you pay a sewer camera guy to inspect your sewer line from the house out to the city lateral. The camera average cost is about 500.00 and the city charges you $280.00 for them to sit and watch the 10 minute long video of your sewer line. If they find damage to the line you have to fix it before you can submit plans to the building department for the work you want to do. Sewer line replacement or sewer liner cost start out at about 6k and go up from there. The job I am currently doing is 8k. And if the lateral out in the street (city property!) is damaged the homeowner pays for it and not the city! It gets worse: A contractor has to have a special license to work in the city street where the lateral is located and so there is another 6 to 20k depending on how far and how deep. If you decide to go with a liner thru the pipe its easier but more expensive unless you are doing it out to the lateral and that is were you save the money. But!, If a plumber ever comes out and jets that line in the future or runs a snake through it you can damage the liner. The inspection of your sewer line may not be a waist of money but the city fee of 280.00 is! Not only the Architects and designers can prosper from all this, the contractors can also if they play their cards right. General contractors can have their hand in all of it Ethical? You decide!

I agree with you but if its not required by the city only people with deep pockets will pay the high cost for a designer or Architect. You have to advertise it the right area's.

Thank you for saving me some time! I have my new plan template set up already. Very easy!

That's the part I have to figure out, is to set up my plan sets or views and to be tied into the right anno set. I haven't studied yet but if someone wants to shortcut me I would appreciate it. In other words: How do I tie it into what I already have set up?

Im already on it! Plan views are very powerful and easy to learn (maybe because I already have been using anno sets for some time and understand them). Looks like Chief did a nice job on this. I'm excited to start using plan views as soon as I start my new drawing tomorrow. I already see several benefits from switching over.

Thank you again! I'm pretty efficient with layers and anno sets but I can see how this new information could improve my production. I will study it further.

I totally get it! Thank you! I have one question: Can you give an example of when we might still want to use an Annotation Set? Or are you saying that there is no longer a need for them at all? That maybe they still exist because of us old school guy's that are still using them?

Thank You for clearing that up!

Very interesting concept! Great Video! I have a question: If I wanted to have the electrical plan and plumbing plan or foundation and framing (any of these) on the same layout page how would I do that if you are using this idea?

I would like to be a part of a group on line session if anyone wants to put it together. I would love to learn more about plan views. I like the group sessions because good questions come out of it.

I don't think it matters much as far as points but these guys are pretty generous to help. I know the program pretty well but most of them know much more than me and make me feel really dumb sometimes. I hope solver helped with your answer!

I feel ya! I gave you a point olso!

This is the easy method https://www.dropbox.com/s/zdf750vcnjzfw99/2019-02-06 10.53.36.mp4?dl=0

Sorry!! I seemed to have opened a can of worms with suggesting she learn the annoset approach. Actually I take that back, I like to stir things up! I learn more that way!!

The program has came a long way since I started using it in 2004. Sounds like annosets are old school according to what Im reading here.

Perry Thank You! You are one of my hero's on the forum! I cant have a valley because it is an open beam ceiling so it has to be an overlay. Its not really a big deal right now because all I have to do is pull back the rafters above the sheeting after the auto frame. It wont be seen in 3D anyway. I was looking to see if someone might know something I don't about a roof over lay but nothing new has came up yet. Hoping that a thread like this might motivate Chief or give them a starting point to come up with something simple. This is a basic everyday framing technique that in my opinion should be a priority to Chief to fix it they can. Like the "Edit Wall Layer Intersection" tool. I love this tool when it came out. As a guy that does additions and interior remodels these types of tools work best for me. Now we just need the "Overlay" tool or "California Framing" tool on the bar.

It doesn't seem like it would be that complicated for Chief to come up with something where that rafters will be able to over lay the roof sheeting some how but then again I know nothing about programming. If you were able to put a wide wall on the roof and make it 1 1/2" high then you would have something for your roof base line to work off of. That may sound stupid but there is some truth to it.

I'm a little reluctant to say this because whenever someone sends me in a whole new direction I get stressed out. As I looked at your layer sets I see myself a few years ago when I had a lot of issues with layer sets. It was strongly suggested to me by a few people on this forum to learn how to use annotation sets. Reluctantly I went ahead and spent about a week learning and setting them up and It ended up being the best thing I ever did, because once layers are set they hold well and you stay consistent. Saves me a lot of time and aggravation. Thanks to people like Perry, Joe C, Tommy and a few others. They helped me through it and I'm very great full to them. Made a huge difference in my productivity and constancy. I don't think you will take as long as I did to set it up because I'm a slow learner and I want everything perfect so I'm my own worst enemy at times unless you share my same qualities LOL!! You can set up an annotation set quickly once you understand it.

I don't use trusses in any of my builds but if It makes more sense to use them in my designs to get the look I want then why not use them. I will study the videos and the manual.

Nice Video! Is there a setting that the rafters will cut at the roof sheeting like we do with a wall that cuts at the roof?

Let me know if you find the video. I haven't seen it