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@masterc - I’ve done a number of porch videos....my YouTube page is in my signature.

@bmatth1 Just make the brick Veneer layer Part of the “main layer”. You could make the foundation a pony wall - bottom being 8” stem wall...top being a 2-layer wall...4” concrete + 4” brick all on main layer. I’m not near my computer so this is just off the top of my head...but I don’t think setting a brick ledge depth in the foundation wall will do anything. But - that’s a guess because I can’t test it at this moment.

OK...I missed that one word. Still...you have to admit you aren't in love with saved plan views...and most times when it comes up you take the opposing view. Which is fine...but, I don't think it's good advice for new users as it's my belief that this is the way Chief is moving...so, you might as well climb on board. But - like I said, I've seen your plans. I'd probably not change if I were you either...you've got an amazing setup which I'm sure has taken you a long time to refine. Why upset the apple cart. You should post one of your floor plans so new users can see what Chief is capable of...no one does a better looking set of plans.

I use the Working Set in Plan Views as my plan development set...I can turn layers on/off etc. But I leave the plan views I use to send to layout alone...well, I try to not change them much. That way...I'm sending drawings to layout in a consistent format. Plan Views are not really any more complicated than annotation sets. If you look at a Plan View...90% of it is an "annotation set". The thing I think that is confusing is "annotation sets"...most new users do not know how to set them up. But - if you can create an annotation set...you can create a saved plan view.

@bluesparrowllc... Plan Views are Annotation/Default Sets...so, why learn two versions of the same thing? Things you can do with Plan Views you cannot do otherwise: - Custom Reference Layer Set (this alone makes Plan Views worth the effort) - Designate a floor for the view - Pony Wall display control...(nothing like this in simple anno set) - Open multiple plan views at the same time...maybe looking at the foundation and the first floor for load bearing or joist issues...or plumbing conflicts. - Designated zoom factor - Color on or off And...you have complete control of all annotations...layers, color, etc...just like a simple annotation set. Just learn plan views...you'll be happy you did.

I think Kevins plans have an issue...something "stray". Something with the foundation or a stray invisible wall or attic wall...or something on a layer that is turned off. I don't believe it's a program problem.

Joey - to use your line of thinking we probably should do away with dormers...just as much confusion with "roof cuts wall at bottom" as there is with Plan Views. Or maybe we should get rid of the stair tool - since it creates more problems than it solves. I'm not a one size fits all...if you like your setup...keep it. Plan Views are a nice feature but certainly not the end all and be all of Chief. @joey_martin - I've seen the plans you produce - absolutely amazing work - you certainly don't need to spend time creating Plan Views.

I've done a number of dormer videos...check out my YouTube page Chief Skills Here is one...

You are correct...I wasn't at my computer when I was pontificating. Yea...if you have a plan view and the defaults are being driven by a saved annotation set...and you change any of the "defaults" in the plan view...you will lose the link to your saved annotation set...which of course makes perfect sense.

This is correct...but, don't be afraid of using a basic annotation set to drive the defaults in Plan Views...it works either way. If you have annotation sets that drive layers sets already setup the way you want...then feel free to link these to a plan view.

Mine are a "mix"...I have some of my plan view defaults driven by an "annotation set"...but most are just passive. As soon as you change something...such as the reference layerset...your old link to the original "annotation set" disappears. If you have been using Anno sets to drive layersets for years...the "active defaults" statement can make your palms sweaty. But - with plan views, you just ignore this. Or...just take the anno set toolbar off of your default toolbar....and keep the blood pressure stable.

Well - let’s say you create a plan view for each floor plan...first, second...and possibly basement. You can use the same anno/default set for all of these plans...you may want a unique cad layer. On the plan view you designate which floor It is associated with. For each plan view you can open it and change any default and the plan view saves this setup...it’ll display “using active defaults”. So you know it’s not using one of your saved Anno/default sets.

Same on my system...I'm on a MAC

Plan Views do (or can) control annotation/default and layer sets. But...they have other benefits and you should explore using them. The Chief template "residential template.plan" includes some basic plan views. You should try this template out and create a basic little 2-story house plan and explore how the plan views work. One of the biggest benefits is that you can assign custom Reference Layer Sets...unfortunately Chief has not done a great job explaining the benefits of custom REF Sets. Another big benefit of Plan Views is that you can open multiple plan views at one time...so, if you are working on a roof plan, you can also look at your floor plan...side by side. Or...a maybe you are working on the floor framing plan and want to see where your water closet is above is located...custom ref set. Also, you don't really need a dedicated "annotation/default" set with every plan view...as the Plan View itself will save whatever defaults you assign to the PV. I would say that you would want a layerset to match your Plan View. I'd say you should get on board with plan views as I feel this is how Chief is moving...and if you don't get up to speed soon you'll have an even more difficult time wrapping your head around how to use them. One of my big gripes about Plan Views (and a number of things Chief does)...is they release this powerful new tool and create just a general video that glosses over how great this new feature is...but they never really do a deep dive into things like PV's. IMO they should have created a series of videos covering something like this in great detail.

No...using Chief often...so, probably just losing more hair.

Yea...but not if you value your time. Do what Kevin suggested...use a molding polyline. You will be done in a few minutes and can move on to the next thing.

@kwhitt - Kevin, somewhere in your plan there is a problem. I tried..but could not find it. Not sure why you would align the "roof baseline" over the face of the brick. Why not just keep the baseline aligned over the main wall layer and then adjust the fascia top height...or use the "raise/lower from ceiling height" to adjust the roof? I've attached a plan I created using your plan footprint. I didn't try to recreate your roof...I was more looking to see if I could recreate the overhang issue you are having. I created this plan using my template. Everything is created using "auto"...auto roof, auto foundation etc. As you can see...I don't have the overhang issue you have. KWhitt Plan Fix - Steve 20-0810b.plan

@kwhitt - attach a plan so we can see what’s going on. Thanks.

@bmatth1 - see attached plan. I changed the walls to brick-6, changed the foundation wall to 10" wide and added cutouts to your openings...and added a 16" brickledge to the wall type. Just open things up in the plan and you will see the changes... 979243440_OwlCreekGarage - Steve Fix.plan

"Cad Detail from View"...one of the greatest and most under valued tools in Chief.

Made you a "quickie" video...https://www.loom.com/share/88dac27256aa4dc280c382120a16cd20 The biggest mistake you have made on this plan is that you are using a siding-6 wall type which you've "painted" with brick veneer. This might be ok for a quick render...or if you are just exploring what something might look like...but, you really need to change the wall type to "brick-6".

@kwhitt - I just made a frieze similar to your and don't have the issue you have. I'd say you have something else happening...maybe it's the wall type issue where you have something extending from the foundation? See attached...

Kevin... I took a different approach to defining the wall/foundation. You can review the attached plan. For the main house wall I created a pony wall...in the definition of the lower section of the PW I designated that the brick ledge was 24" deep. Chief will automatically drop the veneer down on the face of the foundation wall. For the foundation wall...I created a main layer that was 6.5" and another exterior layer that is 5.5"...total 12". Yea...it's not exactly like your architect wants...but, it works for Chief...a compromise. You could always use the "auto detail" to kind of amend the detail to exactly what you want without Chief wanting to extend the face of the foundation wall up to the roof. Here are some pics...and plan is attached for review. KWhitt - Custom Wall type and Foundation Plan 20-0810.zip

@kwhitt @DzinEye It's quirky...I have no solution. Made a quick loom video so you can see what happens...https://www.loom.com/share/f58852097c1d4f03ad306de53b670f09

@kwhitt - you should post the plan or a sample plan. To quote Joe...”c’mon man”...