Framing member defaults apparently not working

[Ed_Orum]

Good morning.

The object is to have 2x10 floor joists on the first floor.

If I go to Default Settings, then Framing Member Defaults Management, I set the joist width @ 1.5" and the joist depth @ 9.25".

Then, in the Build, Framing, Automatic Framing Defaults I set the joist width @ 1.5" and the joist depth @ 9.25"

But

The automatic framing sets the joists at 3" x 9.25".

So which mystery setting did I miss when trying to set the joist size? (and why are there multiple location in which to set the joist size?)

Thanks in advance,

Lane

[Chrisb222]

20 minutes ago, Ed_Orum said:

So which mystery setting did I miss when trying to set the joist size?

 

 

 

Either rebuild framing manually or have Automatically Rebuild Framing checked.

[Ed_Orum]

I had that checked correctly.

Maybe just another glitch with my program.

Manual Framing.  At this rate, my old paper and pencil drafting might be faster.

 

Lane

[DRAWZILLA]

Maby try the framing defaults dbx section.

[Ed_Orum]

I tried that too. 

I suppose that is why there is an option for manual framing!

[mLongChief]

On 11/10/2025 at 6:30 AM, Ed_Orum said:

The object is to have 2x10 floor joists on the first floor.

If I go to Default Settings, then Framing Member Defaults Management, I set the joist width @ 1.5" and the joist depth @ 9.25".

Where do you see those settings within the Framing Member Defaults Management dialog? That dialog is primary used for setting the values within the framing defaults themselves. Framing defaults don't have the size fields, as the width & depth are usually defined with specific framing members, alongside which default that member will utilize.

 

On 11/10/2025 at 6:30 AM, Ed_Orum said:

Then, in the Build, Framing, Automatic Framing Defaults I set the joist width @ 1.5" and the joist depth @ 9.25"

But

The automatic framing sets the joists at 3" x 9.25".

So which mystery setting did I miss when trying to set the joist size? (and why are there multiple location in which to set the joist size?)

The joist width and depth within the Automatic Framing Defaults is the proper spot to define the default value for these fields, but will only be used if the rooms are set to use the default values. Check the room's Floor Structure to see if they're set to Use Default. If you don't want them to use the default values, then you'll have to make the changes within the floor structure layers of the room itself. Below is a screenshot of the Room Specification dialog of a room I've selected within a plan:

 

If that doesn't help, then posting your plan would help. The behavior you're trying to achieve is possible, just a matter of figuring out which setting got turned off. Hope that helps!

[misterwiley]

On 11/11/2025 at 11:16 AM, mLongChief said:

Where do you see those settings within the Framing Member Defaults Management dialog? That dialog is primary used for setting the values within the framing defaults themselves. Framing defaults don't have the size fields, as the width & depth are usually defined with specific framing members, alongside which default that member will utilize.

 

The joist width and depth within the Automatic Framing Defaults is the proper spot to define the default value for these fields, but will only be used if the rooms are set to use the default values. Check the room's Floor Structure to see if they're set to Use Default. If you don't want them to use the default values, then you'll have to make the changes within the floor structure layers of the room itself. Below is a screenshot of the Room Specification dialog of a room I've selected within a plan:

 

If that doesn't help, then posting your plan would help. The behavior you're trying to achieve is possible, just a matter of figuring out which setting got turned off. Hope that helps!

How can we change the Rim Joist "Construction" on a room by room or wall by wall basis? I only see the ability to change this in the framing defaults which effects the entire plan. Thanks!

[mLongChief]

33 minutes ago, misterwiley said:

How can we change the Rim Joist "Construction" on a room by room or wall by wall basis? I only see the ability to change this in the framing defaults which effects the entire plan. Thanks!

There isn't a way to define the Rim Joist's default on a per-room or per-wall basis. They're defined on a per-floor basis within the Floor Framing Panels within the Automatic Framing Defaults dialog.

 

If you'd like to define these member's defaults on a per-room or per-wall basis, then I'd recommend making that request on the Suggestions forum.

[misterwiley]

31 minutes ago, mLongChief said:

There isn't a way to define the Rim Joist's default on a per-room or per-wall basis. They're defined on a per-floor basis within the Floor Framing Panels within the Automatic Framing Defaults dialog.

 

If you'd like to define these member's defaults on a per-room or per-wall basis, then I'd recommend making that request on the Suggestions forum.

I figured. I just submitted a request. Thanks for the quick response.