Stairs With Winders

[gelbuilding]

For stairs, the tread overhang can be adjusted using the style option. However, for the winders at the bottom, which I created using landings, no style option is available. All three winders are constructed from landings, and notably, the first winder connected to the main stairs has no overhang.

Is there a workaround solution for removing the overhang on the landing?

 

 

[DBCooper]

It works for me.  As long as the landing is connected to the stair, it should pick up the settings from the stair.  Not sure why it doesn't work for you so you might want to post your plan.

 

 

 

 

 

[para-CAD]

Winders are pretty hard to make code compliant.  

6" at the short point and tread length at the 12" walk line.  

I sometimes wonder if the code guys fully understand what they are specifying.

[Mark3D]

Upload your file if you can't get it to work 

[gelbuilding]

I’m still unable to get this to work.

Please look at the CAD drawings provided by the architect.

They used ArchiCAD, but it seems they couldn’t properly construct the stairs and may have drawn them freehand.

 

 

 

 

Stairs CA.zip

[Mark3D]

I fixed it zoom in on your landings they are overlapping each other.

stair winders sample M fix.plan

[JiAngelo]

The attached images are code compliant winders.  Winders cannot meet at a single point.  Must conform with @para-CAD's instructions above.  I normally draw these in cad, then create landings to match each one.

[Michael_Gia]

2 hours ago, JiAngelo said:

code compliant

There are more codes than the one in your backyard. 

[JiAngelo]

2 hours ago, Michael_Gia said:

There are more codes than the one in your backyard. 

Perhaps in your backwoods.  But the Australian Building Code is based on the NCC which matches the ICC 6" (162mm) and 12" (254mm) minimums governing winders. 

[Michael_Gia]

2 hours ago, JiAngelo said:

Perhaps in your backwoods.

Don't get offended, my man. 

 

I'm responding simply to OP's problem, which has nothing to do with code compliancy.  He just wanted Chief to not add nosing overhangs, from what I understood.

 

And maybe the building codes are ridiculous in my area but that's a discussion for another day and time, as para-Cad mentioned. (which I totally agree with as well)

 

Anyway, let's be friends.

[DBCooper]

Well technically, George didn't ask about code.  He only asked why his landings didn't pick up the stair settings.  Mark gave him the right answer.

 

Apparently, Chief doesn't like having landings stacked on top of each other.  It only likes landings butted up to each other.  See the picture below showing stacked landings vs. butted landings.  It would be nice if stacked landings worked automatically but you probably need to send Chief a feature request if you want that to change.

 

 

 

[JiAngelo]

3 hours ago, Michael_Gia said:

Don't get offended, my man. 

 

I'm responding simply to OP's problem, which has nothing to do with code compliancy.  He just wanted Chief to not add nosing overhangs, from what I understood.

 

And maybe the building codes are ridiculous in my area but that's a discussion for another day and time, as para-Cad mentioned. (which I totally agree with as well)

 

Anyway, let's be friends.

All good.  Note the OP clearly stated "the CAD drawings provided by the architect...but it seems they couldn’t properly construct the stairs and may have drawn them freehand."

[gelbuilding]

Hi Mark,

Thank you for your help. I have a few questions regarding the stair:

1. If the landings are aligned, will the stairs function as a single unit, with the winder overhang automatically adjusting to the stair configuration?
2. How can I ensure the top of the stairs aligns with the top of the wall and integrates seamlessly into the room, 

 

Below, winders built in Australia.

 

[Mark3D]

1 hour ago, gelbuilding said:

Hi Mark,

Thank you for your help. I have a few questions regarding the stair:

1. If the landings are aligned, will the stairs function as a single unit, with the winder overhang automatically adjusting to the stair configuration?
2. How can I ensure the top of the stairs aligns with the top of the wall and integrates seamlessly into the room, 

 

Below, winders built in Australia.

 

1. yes see my file i just adjusted the landings and then all worked

2. They should unless you have changed the stairs automatic setting but i think more information is needed as to your exact problem like screen shot or the file also with this question i am not a expert with stairs someone else may have a better reply

[gelbuilding]

Thanks Mark,

 

Strugging to create the stairs o/a length of 4569mm long x 3040mm high.

 

 

 

[JiAngelo]

My bad.  I found Canada also allows those winders treads to converge at 0.  Sorry Michael.

[para-CAD]

I will have to try metric.......mm's seem like a fun change

 

 

[Mark3D]

3 hours ago, gelbuilding said:

Thanks Mark,

 

Strugging to create the stairs o/a length of 4569mm long x 3040mm high.

 

 

 

I don’t know make sure your open below room is correct and that have not changed the height setting in stair dialog

[gelbuilding]

Mark,

I zoomed in to the landings but dont see the overlapping your suggesting.

[Mark3D]

13 hours ago, DBCooper said:

Well technically, George didn't ask about code.  He only asked why his landings didn't pick up the stair settings.  Mark gave him the right answer.

 

Apparently, Chief doesn't like having landings stacked on top of each other.  It only likes landings butted up to each other.  See the picture below showing stacked landings vs. butted landings.  It would be nice if stacked landings worked automatically but you probably need to send Chief a feature request if you want that to change.

 

 

 

Yours are attacked as shown in this post