denovodesign Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 wall siding pattern lines do not show up in elevations in vector mode. the roof lines are there and when I hit the toggle patterns they disappear but wall lines never show up until I use the orthographic full overview camera and then they are there until I rotate it to a full on elevation view then they disappear. I have updated video card driver. I have tried checking and unchecking hardware smoothing I have made sure all layers are on. Can anyone please help with this? I have read all I could find on similiar problems. I can't believe I am the only one with this problem. running premier x6 with newest update. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Does your texture have a pattern assigned to it? if not you will have to add one. Some siding don't have any patterns. Patterns show in vector views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denovodesign Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 Yes, I have even tried stone, brick and several others. nothing shows up when it is either an elevation or straight on view. I can orbit the camera slightly to get the lines but then you get things off a little on the edges because the building is slightly askew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I am guessing that it's either a video card problem or a problem with your wall def. Does it happen with a brand new plan using the default profile plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denovodesign Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 it happens with any wall ive tried. something interesting, when I export it to autocad or a chief layout the lines are there so it is not the worst thing. if anybody else has an idea short of a video card swap i'd like to hear it. thanks fredi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Post your plan or it's just guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Try to make your siding thicker like 1" just in case you have z-fighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_Park Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 My guess is along the lines of what others are saying. 1) Your outer wall layer is very thin and so you are getting some sort of Z-Fighting problem. 2) Your model is located a long way from (0, 0) x and y coordinates leading to a numeric precision problem in 3D that causes a similar problem to Z fighting. 3) Some sort of video card hardware/driver problem. This is probably not the issue, but I mention it to be complete. When we compute the lines for the layout we use double precision numbers and an algorithm that will pull the lines forward if they are some how covered up by surfaces in front. In order to get even halfway reasonable performance in OpenGL we are required to use single precision numbers which can result in a lot of odd things under certain circumstances. A good rule of thumb is to keep your model as near 0,0 as you can. If you get out about 1 mile or so from the origin all sorts of weird things begin to happen to the 3D. Similarly, if you have very thin layers in your walls you can get some weird issues like what you are describing. Of course this is all speculation. It would be a lot easier to diagnose with the actual plan to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denovodesign Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Here is the file. a couple of things. another person opened up the drawing different computer, and video card same version of chief and had the same reults. i checked and it appears pretty close to 0,0 and I tried the outer wall thickness up to an inch. kitchen and master revised for elevations fredi .plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_Morrison Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I have no problem getting the siding pattern lines, so it is likely something with your Render Preference settings, but not sure which one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Looks OK to me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I see what Arthur sees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I see dead people. They're everywhere. I am glad I am not the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 A.D., when are we going to hang out. Or, wait, maybe you are me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_Park Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 On my laptop which has a very high DPI I couldn't see the pattern lines unless I zoomed way in because they are very thin and not very distinct from the very dark fill color. I bumped the pattern line weight up and they showed up a bit better but the dark on dark color is really hard to see. Try changing the pattern line color to something more distinctive and see if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denovodesign Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 thanks everyone for your replies. it still doesn't work here but I'll mess with it some more when I have time. as long a they show up in layout or exported I really don't care. Like I said I can see them on camera orbit so I can see what I have there. If I figure it out I'll post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Looks ok to me also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_Park Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 If you toggle color off do they show up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Mine are that way as well. Can't see patterns on my laptop, but they show on my desktop. I marked it up to a video card issue and moved on about a year ago. It doesn't affect the layout, or render view so I stopped fighting the software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_Park Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Joey, I'm curious as to what is really going on. Is the problem on your laptop the issue I'm seeing that is the result of very high DPI or is it another problem? On my laptop the screen is nearly 300 DPI so the very fine black lines against a really dark background become invisible. I see the same thing regardless of whether I'm running the NVIDIA or Intel graphics on this machine. It seems like increasing the pattern line weight or changing the line color to something more contrasting helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 My pattern lines are always in my standard gray scale, and are always at the same line weight from plan view to layout page. I'm sure it has to do with the video card, or maybe a setting. I just haven't had the time, or frankly just didn't care since it doesn't affect my construction documents. I don't have my laptop with me this morning but will check the settings this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Alright. This is what I get when I am working on an elevation. Like I said, I marked it up to a video card (Intel HD Graphics) and moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_Park Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I noticed that on my laptop the lines were much more distinct when I wasn't running on battery power. The screen was brighter. There may be an Intel graphics correlation here, but I'm not seeing it on my laptop. But then it has fairly modern Intel graphics. Only about 1 year old. I'm starting lean in the direction that what I'm seeing is not the same as what you are seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicinus Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I think there is a bug in there somewhere. I had the exact same problem in an elevation, couldn't get to see the pattern whatever I tried. It was visible in 3D. I was assuming I was doing something wrong so I loaded an old plan I knew had a roof pattern, and when I had them both loaded in Chief, my new plan suddenly showed the pattern as well. Hard to reproduce though until next time it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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