SteveNovato Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Good Morning All, I am trying to finish a very simple kitchen plan. My issue is with a full height cabinet with two separate appliances installed (built in oven and built in microwave). The 3D view and Cross section accurately show what I want the finished item to look like. But...in the plan view, the microwave symbol sticks out in front of the cabinet. I could cover this with a CAD box, but I would really like to know how to fix this. I have tried moving the (X,Y & Z) positions in the edit symbol DBX, though the position on the plan is always different from the other views (if the microwave symbol looks correct in plan view, the 3d view view will show the appliance face at the back of the cabinet opening). I have restarted Chief, as well as the computer, only to have the same results. Also, please excuse the line weights in the cross section pdf. I would really appreciate input on how to solve this issue. Thanks, Steve 153 View.pdf 153 Cross Section.pdf 153.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveNovato Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 Thank Eric. I will read up on how to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 For the freestanding microwave, you're overthinking it a bit. No need for any offsets. Put those back to zero and just put the microwave where it goes. You'll need to temporarily override bumping and pushing by either toggling it off or by holding down the Control key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_stuart Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Steve, your X, Y, Z plan placement should all be at 0 (first image) and your X, Y, Z symbol origin should also be at 0 (third image). You can access the symbol origin with the "chair" symbol you see when you select the item (second image) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveNovato Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 Done. Thank you for the great instructions...I don't know how the position strayed from zero, but I won't be fooled again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, SteveNovato said: don't know how the position strayed from zero, but I won't be fooled again! The symbol was probably made to be inserted into a cabinet as an integrated appliance and not as a freestanding appliance as you were using it. when an appliance is included as part of the cabinet then you have to set that Y offset and the bounding box depth to match this number… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveNovato Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 All of your tips were very useful. Eric, your video is above and beyond! Thank you Sometimes I feel that being a member of Mensa should be a prerequisite for this program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 10 hours ago, cajunland said: Related issue? Why can I not select appliance in base cabinet? Cabinet is wide enough and shows as appliance in dialog. SelectApplianceIssue.plan 3.97 MB · 3 downloads Select the Cabinet , then hit TAB to skip to the next nearest object. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Quote Related issue? No, not really. Quote Why can I not select appliance in base cabinet? How are you trying to select it? Your appliance (dishwasher) is inserted into the front of the cabinet. You can't select appliances that are inserted into the front of cabinets while in any plan or camera views. You can only select and modify them while you are in the cabinet dialog. Appliances that are inserted into the top of a cabinet, such as a sink or cooktop, can usually be selected in most views by first clicking on the appliance (which will still select the cabinet) and then using the tab key to select the appliance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajunland Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Thanks Dermot & KBird1. Confirmed that tab does not work when selected. I see cabinet selection allows changes to dishwasher. I'll look again at X13 User Manual unless you can reference this caveat in it for me as I may forget later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefBobby3D Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 THANKS Mr. Solver! I've been struggling with this exact issue for 45+ minutes! But your video above was the ticket! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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