RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I can not find this topic on search. I have the latest X12 plans changing to X10 when I send them to a flash drive or if I email the plan to my laptop which is also running the latest X12. Anyone else experience this? What is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 How do you know they are changing to X10 plans? it doesn't sound right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA_Josh Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, RJBPILOT said: I can not find this topic on search. I have the latest X12 plans changing to X10 when I send them to a flash drive or if I email the plan to my laptop which is also running the latest X12. Anyone else experience this? What is going on? Hello, Do you happen to have X10 installed on the machine you're sending the plans to? There is a likely chance that the *.plan and *.layout file extensions are associated with that older X10 version instead of X12. You might try following the steps in this article to resolve the problem: https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-01131/associating-plan-layout-and-library-files-with-the-latest-version-of-chief-architect-or-home-designer.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Ahh because it says it right on the files! These were X12 plan files before I sent them to this flash drive, which I opened on my laptop here. I had this happen before when I sent the plans via email to my laptop. They are sent as X12 and arrive as X10 files! Crazy! and frustrating. My laptop has the same X12 version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I think your pic confirm above , ie that X10 is the current program associated with .plan and ,layout files on your laptop , hence the x10 icon..... Try this on the laptop in X12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Thank you, I understand the information you're sharing, but the strange thing is when I open the flash drive and just LOOK at the files without trying to open them, they show as X10. Doesn't seem like that should be happening...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Thanks for the replies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 So I addressed the file management. Opened both plan and layout in X12. I did a save-as for the plan file. Put into another folder on computer. All good. Then did same with layout file.... still shows as X10! Repeated the process with the layout to double check..... now both files are back to X10...... some weird sh@t going on..... oh well its more irritation than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Eric, I was traveling, so I put an X12 plan and layout on my flash drive from my desktop. When I am at a hotel, I placed the said flash drive into my laptop and the files both showed as X10. I went to file management as suggested and associated files to my X12 version. Then I did the following: Opened both plan and layout in X12. I did a save-as for the plan file. Put into another folder on computer. All good. Then did same with layout file.... still shows as X10! Repeated the process with the layout to double check..... now both files are back to X10. I repeated the process after deleting all saved files and both still show as X10 for some reason when I do save-as in X12. I HAD THE PLAN SAVED AS X12, BUT NOW CAN'T REPLICATE IT. IT JUST SHOWS AS X10 IN THE FOLDER I SAVED IT TO UNLIKE THE FIRST TIME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Another odd thing. When I go to the file management and associate files to this x12 version, it should be grayed out after doing it once, shouldn't it? Every time I go back to it, it remains selectable. Shouldn't it be grayed out after doing it once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Yes, I am not at home . This is the machine I'm working on now. I believe I need to dig deeper into the system folders to see what's going on......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 What mystifies me is why would the file be sent to the flash drive as X10? It was that way before I even opened it on the laptop....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Oh well, it's past midnight here in Norway, so I am going to deal with it in the morning........ I live in Michigan and I am battling a little jet lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Try this on both machines. Right click on any Chief .plan file, click Get Info, select Chief X12 in Open With, click Change All. Do the same on both machines for .layout files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 When I get home in 6 weeks I will try that....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, RJBPILOT said: I have the latest X12 plans changing to X10 when I send them to a flash drive or if I email the plan to my laptop which is also running the latest X12 This was confusing in your OP. It sounded like the file format was changing versions when it is really the file association is changing. The file format is still remaining as X12. If you try and open one of the files in X12, by first opening Chief and then opening the file, it works OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 No to your last question. I have X12 open on my laptop > open the flash drive and see the files I sent there from my desktop as X10 even though they were X12 files when sent there> I open them in X12 on my laptop > save-as (in X12) > send to a new folder on laptop > then they still show as X10 files! But when I first did it the plan file WAS saved as X12 file, but I can not replicate that again for some reason. The Layout file never converted, however. No both don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 I appreciate all your help, but you don't have to waste your time with this...... maybe I will figure it out.. I was mainly wondering if this is a common problem elsewhere? Guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, RJBPILOT said: No to your last question. I have X12 open on my laptop > open the flash drive and see the files I sent there from my desktop as X10 even though they were X12 files when sent there> I open them in X12 on my laptop > save-as (in X12) > send to a new folder on laptop > then they still show as X10 files! But when I first did it the plan file WAS saved as X12 file, but I can not replicate that again for some reason. The Layout file never converted, however. No both don't. If chief was indeed overwriting an X10 file when you saved it in X12 , it would warn you it was about to overwrite an older File version with the new save....... no warning? Never had a MAC but it sounds like perhaps you have a Icon database corruption issue perhaps ( happen on Windows too ), do a bit of googling when you have time , there are posts like this one out there : Repair incorrect icon associations | Macworld M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 for clarification if you run X10 it should NOT be able to open an X12 plan, regardless of the name or icons etc Chief is NOT capable of backward compatibility Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Yeah, Lew, I am way past X10, do not use it anymore and only move forward when opening old plans...... Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Been a long time Lew. We used to chat years ago....... my profile was dropped awhile ago from lack of use. I had to redo my profile so it says I joined in 2016 now... I was a member back in 2004.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBPILOT Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 I will delete all my old versions off of my computers. That is probably the issue.... do some machine cleansing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Wow, so many posts and so much confusion. X12 is not capable of writing out plans in the X10 file format. If you saved the files using X12, then they are indeed X12 files regardless of what your OS shows as the program icon. The icon is only showing you what program your OS thinks the file is associated with. If you haven't read the tech article that Josh posted above, then please go read the tech article. If following the instructions of the tech article do not solve your problem, then please call our technical support team during our normal business hours and they will be more than happy to try and help you solve your problems. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 RJB: hi, glad to see you back please refresh me what your name is - getting old here Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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