4hotshoez Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I set the ceiling slope at 8:12 and the wall height is designed to be no lower than 60" but it places it 2 5/8" too low. In the Room dbx the framed wall is 61 1/8" and says that the finished ceiling will be 59 7/8", but measures at 57 1/4". What is going on and how do I deal with this craziness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Definitely don't attach the plan. That won't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Raise the roof planes or ceiling planes to what you want, no craziness here, its all in the setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Ok. I think I have this set up correctly to share. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lo009p9jjfzjeq8/AABtmWXYDYSeBQ3ON50SmnjKa?dl=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 BTW, the ceiling in question is on the second floor in the Game Room above the garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I see you used trusses to define the ceiling in game room are you sure it is the right size ? Plan is slow for me too in 3D my old videocard is only 1GB too like yours.... Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 The truss needs to be re-built. The roof height is set correctly and the truss was used to help solve a problem, but since the ceiling sets too low, I am not sure if the problem has been solved. Is this 2 5/8" difference going to be a consistent problem or does it change with the slope? Why does CA do this? It makes me question the accuracy and dependability of CA. Or is it my settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 The truss needs to be re-built. The roof height is set correctly and the truss was used to help solve a problem, but since the ceiling sets too low, I am not sure if the problem has been solved. Is this 2 5/8" difference going to be a consistent problem or does it change with the slope? Why does CA do this? It makes me question the accuracy and dependability of CA. Or is it my settings? I have the plan, show me a pic of the area you are questioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Todd, your ceiling planes were just set too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Try drawing custom cl'g planes just like roofs, with cl'g baseline & lower edge line over the outside edge of the wall main layer. Then set & lock the pitch & define "Inside Bottom Hgt". This should solve your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Try drawing custom cl'g planes just like roofs, with cl'g baseline & lower edge line over the outside edge of the wall main layer. Then set & lock the pitch & define "Inside Bottom Hgt". This should solve your problem. That still requires setting the ceiling plane height properly...which they aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Wasn't disputing that at all, Michael. Just a suggestion for future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Wasn't disputing that at all, Michael. Just a suggestion for future. Copy that : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 Try drawing custom cl'g planes just like roofs, with cl'g baseline & lower edge line over the outside edge of the wall main layer. Then set & lock the pitch & define "Inside Bottom Hgt". This should solve your problem. This is exactly how I made them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 That still requires setting the ceiling plane height properly...which they aren't. They were set by the DBX. But they do not measure according to the DBX. The dim is 2 5/8" less than what the DBX say they should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 They were set by the DBX. But they do not measure according to the DBX. The dim is 2 5/8" less than what the DBX say they should be. I don't understand this statement. YOU have to set the heights for the custom ceiling plane. They're just set too low. Can you explain exactly how you set the ceilings up step by step? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 This is exactly how I made them. No, it wasn't. Your ceilings were drawn to the inside finished surface of the walls & the baseline is over the inside of wall main layer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 The cl'g plane is exactly where the dbx says it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 133 3/4"(your defined flr hgt) + 60"(your desired wall hgt) = 193 3/4". If the cl'g was drawn as suggested, that value would be entered in the "Inside Bottom Hgt" field & it would be what you want. I didn't make this up. Watch the training videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Custom cl'gs do come in at the cl'g hgt that is spec'd in the room dbx that they are drawn over. .........when they're drawn properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 I must be missing something because I set the wall framing ht to 60" + 1 1/8", which is what I thought controlled the ceiling ht. Then I am confused as to the difference between inside and outside bottom height. I have had to set the outside bottom height to 195 1/8" to get a finished height of 60", which is 2 5/8" more than (Floor height + wall ht) 133 3/4" + 60" = 194 3/4". The inside bottom height is 3 1/2" taller than the outside bottom height. Not making sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 No, it wasn't. Your ceilings were drawn to the inside finished surface of the walls & the baseline is over the inside of wall main layer. So where should the baseline be located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Custom cl'gs do come in at the cl'g hgt that is spec'd in the room dbx that they are drawn over. .........when they're drawn properly. Ok I need to ask, how is a ceiling properly drawn? or What have I done incorrectly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Now I have moved the ceiling base line to the outside wall layer and set the "Inside bottom ht to (second floor ht) 133 3/4" + (the desired wall ht) 60" = 193 3/4", BUT when I put a dimension string on the 60" high wall, it is only 59". I am still an inch short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I personally build ceilings exactly like you have and not per Jim's method (although I'm not knocking it at all). That's not your problem. Your problem is that your math and settings are incorrect... -Your ROUGH floor is at 133-3/4". Your finished floor is 3/4" thicker or 134-1/2". -The Outside Bottom Height of the ceiling plane I checked was set at 192-3/8" when it should be at least 194-1/2" (134-1/2"+60") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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