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Does anyone know how to show a door in elevation view without an opening indicator. Example, a fixed sidelite as part of an entry door unit. I currently just delete the line with the 'edit layout' tool. Obviously this little task has to be repeated...

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17 minutes ago, robdyck said:

Does anyone know how to show a door in elevation view without an opening indicator. Example, a fixed sidelite as part of an entry door unit. I currently just delete the line with the 'edit layout' tool. Obviously this little task has to be repeated...

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need to explode the mulled unit and set the sidelite to fixed and then re-mull the unit

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37 minutes ago, Renerabbitt said:

and set the sidelite to fixed

 

Where is this fixed setting you refer to?

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14 hours ago, robdyck said:

Does anyone know how to show a door in elevation view without an opening indicator. Example, a fixed sidelite as part of an entry door unit. I currently just delete the line with the 'edit layout' tool. Obviously this little task has to be repeated...

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I don't think there's any good way to do that and still leave the sidelite as a door.  I think your best bet is to just make the sidelite a doorway and place the door panel manually (as a freestanding symbol).

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16 hours ago, robdyck said:

I currently just delete the line with the 'edit layout' tool.

This is the most often used way for me. It is quick unless there are several of these to do -- or you are editing the view often and have to do this over and over. I wish we had a way to turn these off per instance if needed.

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1 hour ago, Alaskan_Son said:

 

I don't think there's any good way to do that and still leave the sidelite as a door.  I think your best bet is to just make the sidelite a doorway and place the door panel manually (as a freestanding symbol).

 

15 hours ago, solver said:

 

Where is this fixed setting you refer to?

Solver you're absolutely right, I was missing a ton of steps. 

In past I have used the delete surface tool with hidden hinges and removed hardware and then convert the door to a window symbol..which is why I was remembering setting something to "fixed"

 

Here is a mulled unit with the sidelite as a window using the method mentioned above. mulled door and sidelite.calibz

You can see in elevation it shows as intended:

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and in 3d:

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My main problem is with insertion points and offsets with how the cad generated block shows...which is why I reposted Alaskan as I feel as if he would have the solution to that part of the problem:

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7 hours ago, Renerabbitt said:

My main problem is with insertion points and offsets with how the cad generated block shows...which is why I reposted Alaskan as I feel as if he would have the solution to that part of the problem:

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That is one of many reasons I very rarely use window symbols for anything.  I'd typically rather just cut the opening (using material regions, a doorway, or a pass through) and then place the symbol as a regular fixture.  And now, in X10 we have the new Inserts Into Wall option which basically gives you the cutout and the symbol all in one. 

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Thanks Michael, 

I figured I'd need to do that. That's how I make folding glass walls ( like Nana Wall or Panoramic Doors) appear accurately.

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2 minutes ago, robdyck said:

Thanks Michael, 

I figured I'd need to do that. That's how I make folding glass walls ( like Nana Wall or Panoramic Doors) appear accurately.

 

Yep.  That's my preferred method for those as well. 

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Your window method intrigues me. I've played around with developing my own window symbols but haven't had the time to complete anything. That would really help with accurate modelling as I do a lot of my details in 3D.

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On 3/13/2018 at 10:03 AM, Ridge_Runner said:

This is the most often used way for me. It is quick unless there are several of these to do -- or you are editing the view often and have to do this over and over. I wish we had a way to turn these off per instance if needed.

 

in this case it might be best to draw a WHITE LINE over them opening indicator.  Still a bit tedious but at least it hides the indicator if the view is updated.

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1 hour ago, dshall said:

in this case it might be best to draw a WHITE LINE over them opening indicator.

That's a good method also if there are only a few to do.

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I hear what you're saying but in the image you'll see why a white line doesn't work. I do everything in color.

 

 

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