MarkMc

I get that though it does clear eventually. My solution is to assign keyboard shortcuts to all rendering techniques. If I want to move, adjust anything I switch to standard view (VS for me) then back to RTRT (VP for physically based). EZ, fast, no lock up. Handy going to glass house to find lost things too.

Changed closer to settings from vert lights I use. Changed sun and backdrop intensity. Altered glass in left cabinet which works in Standard view. Replaced glass in right cabinet with opening no material for RTRT. Standard RTRT Vert lights.zip

Aside from making separate symbols on way would be to: make a material for the mullions set as stretch to fit. First you have to make the glass area of the material blank in a photo program then save as png Then.. Make a custom door symbols from a wall cabinet, that is" 3/4" thick; separations set to what you need in the job; reveal set to 0; Front is side panel inset with a slab door- use the mullion material on the frontuse a single slab door for front, Back of cabinet also a side panel inset but a custom door symbol that is a slab 1/4" thick set Y origin for it to offset 7/16 into the cabinet. Make that glass. I did a quickie just using your graphic to see what it would look like resized. Didn't take the time to go to photo editor but have done that in the past. Here is how you Gothic Mullions (hoops) resize.

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Did this for someone some years ago but couldn't find it. Here's one way, I already had most of the parts. Didfn't bother to add the custom drawerbox but should give you some ideas. The front side tape might be better done using side panels but this works too. Stretchers are put into the back so you have to adjust them to work with the front. Personally I wouldn't bother with it. Was a KD for a few decades and never needed this level with anyone (some 2 dozen suppliers) I got cabinets from. If I did on a regular basis I would use a dedicated cabinet program. I suppose the stretchers could be easy enough if we were allowed to use a custom symbol for separations. I'd rather see time spent elsewhere though- like splitting up front, sides and back in Style Palettes Stretchers and edge banding.zip

Placed Chiefs door in blank plan. Open object (X15 would be open symbol in earlier versions) 3D tab. Change smoothing angle to something over 90, I used 130. In a 3D camera view use the delete surface tool to delete just the mullions. When selected they highlight. Then save as symbol, cabinet door, set stretch zones for width and height. Plan attached with two symbols included. arch door.zip

I must have been out somewhere when this thread showed up. But has been answered before with method using two cabinets. PIA but can change to symbol or block though I never bothered. Can be cleaner if you also make shelf symbols to use in only one cabinet which I have for closets. In any case here's one variation. Open Corner.zip

Not sure what is going on with your's since no plan attached. This one works just fine. I left the room dividers visible for clarity. Might be an issue? Plan attached. elevation.zip

(Please fill out your signature with version, some computer info helps along the way-there are posts detailing this.) Yes by setting default label to "specify label" From there it depends on which version of Chief you are using. Once setting to specify label you need to have a nomenclature identifier, Like B for base, followed by a dimension macro set to the tolerance you want. This gets tricky when that nomenclature changes - like to 3DB. IF in X14 or above look for information on "number formatter: in the forum to see how to write a dimension macro. There are a couple of folks on the forum who sell a cabinet label macro that can account for "some" nomenclature. You could look into that- likely not expensive. BUT FWIW what is out there would not work for any of the brands of cabinet that I worked with. So find out what setting they offer for that before getting into it. There are ways to shortcut some of the process using with a library of user configured cabinets with correct starting nomenclature for each. That can be used with the "replace from library" tool or with style palettes -both of which are separate topics.

Split the front vertically. Add the shelves to the side with the opening. First set number of shelves, then distance between. Last set the bottom shelf distance from previous to match the bottom right side distance.

Converted a cabinet door to a molding, had to mess around a little with repeat distance and height was odd. curved wainscot.zip

OK got rid of it. I was hesitant at first anyway.

I have 2020 v9.1 (or 9 ??) Exe file and dongle but supposedly can't sell it ? Haven't used it since 2011/12. Even have a compatible copy of Envisioneer 7 or so. I prefer Chief.

I used a system where ALL of the information for any brand was contained in library objects (now style pallettes). This included methods to include details. That all ends up in a schedule. It can also automatically show up in a selected plan view. The schedule gets copied and pasted into a spread sheet. A little sheet manipulation then allows every: cabinet code, mod code, sides, hinging...whatever is needed to be placed directly into an on line ordering system. Most of the systems I came across allowed that information to be drag and dropped into it. It never took a full day, rarely 4 hours for a big job. Lot of modest kitchen orders were done in an hour or two including checking. With some though you could likely figure it out from that. OTOH... I can teach it to you and set it up to start (or completely per brand and advise for a while). Not free. I am away until August 8th. In Seattle tomorrow then no contact till the 8th. If you are interested email me or PM before by the time I am back. I intended to write up a booklet (not video but may include a little) with this and some of my other stuff but life gets in the way. Maybe get it done a little after IBS if you want to wait for the cheap way out. Edit- I should add that I also used part of this method to write orders for brands that did NOT have an online system but needed a printed order. The only difference was I had to put in prices. I may have a very old vid of placing order on line laying around somewhere. Consistently used this with QCCI, Mountaineer (basically Rich Maid codes, a lot like CWP),& Showplace. ...a few orders with both Luxor & Elmwood.

Try place a standard wall cabinet, add 3" (or more) to the depth & width change to corner cabinet/diagonal Place in corner Now place wall cabinets on each side.

Height is easier than width. (sorry I don't do vids) What I've found as fastes/simplest is to make the symbol a cabinet door. Place in back of the cabinet as a side panel inset. You will have to resize the back section to match the front IF the front changs. For width there is not good way around having multiple symbols BUT...I make them with a specific number of dividers and spacing. Then allow the left and right side to change to fit. Make the symbol from a cabinet and save the plan. It's the fastest way to make the symbol and allows you to change # of dividers, divider width and spacing. Offset the y axis by .3/4". Set a stretch ZONE for height the total height of the symbol. Set 2 stretch planes for width. One 1/2 for left edge, one 1/2" from right edge. That will allow you about 3-4" of width change per # off dividers (depending on how crazy you want to be. You could always make a new symbol) It's also possible to make only one door symbol the split the back section. (more: control, difficult, time). If you want to get tricky can use a combination of a single divider as a door and a multiple with set spacing. YMMV NOTE- these will NOT change depth. For cabinet depth make new symbol either using the original plan (easiest, fastest) or placing a symbol in plan, adjusting, then converting. Something similar can be done making a fixture symbol for a shelf. Managing materials can get tricky (don't use default or it will match your toilets) First set shelf spacing to previous as 0", close shelf DBX, re-open, select shelf you want, click ok when it says won't fit resize? Resizing height on that section requires redoing the shelf selection all over again but the back does not to be redone. Here is a run of assorted size cabinets. Dividers are 3/8 wide w/4" between. I'd say it works ok from 24-30". NOTE that IF you set the width to resize equally the spacing will resize BUT the dividers will also!!

I had a plan view that used a default set- custom counters, counter dimensions, counter text. Had that as a page in at the end of the layout using a different page template than the reast (set to 8-1/2 x 11). Printed that page seperately. To create the custom counter top start by selecting a base cabinet run in the standard kitchen plan, adjust as needed, then another. Oh BTW I set all cabinet front overhand to what I wanted but sides and back to 0". Select one end of the counter and click the temp dimension the "+ some number" Island overhangs done the same way. Once all are good open the counter PV- do dimensions and notes. Done. What is the issue you are running into that is not efficient?

Change defautls. Dimension defaults Cabinet Defaults, Number Style Result You could also change the label to work if need be

I did try that first prior to posting. This is what you get Maybe find you can find the time.... I could be wrong. Does not save any steps either.

In library select the door symbol, duplicate. Open the duplicate to the 3D tab, change name I used "Door Z". Rotate along the z axis 180 degrees. You now have a reversed symbol. After placing in plan open object, at bottom of general tab, options reverse interior/exterior. IF you need the texture to reverse then make a second texture. First mirror you image in a photo program, bring it in and make new texture. These were done that way

Read about macros in Ruby as noted earlier. You will want to learn to use Text Macro Management- Select a cabinet, open TM, look at object properites. That will show what you can use in formulas. Please fill out your signature with version using, computer info can help us when you are having issues.

Read either help or the Reference Manual about "Components List" and likely Macros/Ruby in Chief. To just get the volume you would just use W x H x D . That could be put in a sub category or in the comment field in Object Information Panel (OIP) I suggest you will be better served talking with your cabinet supplier first. Here is a chart of just a few assorted cabinets showing list prices and at the far right the price per cu. ft. A quick glance shows the issue In the past I've posted some information on using schedules copied to a spreadsheet to get cabinet pricing. If I were doing that today I'd have an assortment of style palettes in the library for cabinets that included a price in a custom OIP field.

Just be aware that this kind of method only will get you an approximation. Many KDs use a linear foot price for guestimating cabinet pricing we called that the "price for the kitchen nobody buys". I ran into a more complicated method used by SEN dealers that was more accurate but I can't remember and would not attempt to get it into a ML. (FWIW when I was a KD and dealer, I refused to use guestimates and simply would price the job with options.) Here is what a ML formula for volume would look like. This a a tad high perhaps for base but fairly close for wall cabinets for one brand that I used. It does not account for variations in door style (0 to 25% increase or often a per door charge) or wood species (0-35%), or finish (0 -30% increase). or variations in construction (traditional OL is less, inset usually more)

It depends on what/why you need in Chief. Blum supplies them with parts that would be ordered if building Legraboxes. Instructions would be at the Blum website IF you are ordering parts AND building them yourself. OTOH IF I wanted Legrabox used in cabinets I was ordering I would simply specify that and let the maker deal with parts. IF I wanted open drawers to look correct in 3D then I'd likely make a symbol that may or may not use the Blum parts. I would bother to offset that symbol with the correct clearances based on information on Blum site. I personally don't see a reason to do that. NOTE that the glides in the catalog do NOT function (open and close) in 3D but I can't think of a reason to want that.

I think that the extras are because the same material is used by an object in the user library. In my case those often are using a material I copied to there.