DzinEye

I was right away wondering if X12 had an on/off for Temporary dimensions, so I looked at mine and didn't see anything...so didn't suggest it. Now that you've posted this I looked again, still don't see it. Did you custom add that to your toolbars? Crap.. strike that.. I just found it. Never even noticed it before. Probably been around forever too.. sigh.

Good catch... measured from nose is typical

Thank you Dermot, I will

Yeah.. I have to share the file with an interior designer using X11... But great to know... I will have to take screenshots from X12.

What'd you do?... Did you open it in X12?

I managed to get the floor opening back, but everything's still a mess....but perhaps you can figure out the stair tread issue from this Test_1.7z

Yeah, I realize that, but when I use that method to cut out this portion of the plan, and paste it into a new plan file to send just this area, this mess is what I see, so I didn't bother sending it. Should I send it anyway?...or am I doing something wrong?

I wish it was that easy, unless (and likely) that I'm not doing something right. I get the following when I Edit Area All Floors... and it's even worse with just Edit Area. On the bright-side... it fixed my railing under the stairs!?!? Makes me think it must be related to the floor opening, no? Now about those treads...

Off-hand, have any of you experienced the two issues I'm highlighting in the stairway? Treads showing through stringer on curved portion of stair, and railing below not filling out with ballusters? This in in X11 and the file is massive, so I'm first trolling for thoughts before posting the plan. Thanks in advance... Mark

Very cool demo!... thank you.

Seems to me that I've always learned it as the switcheroo between their Half-Hip and their Dutch Gable?

Doh!... I've always done those manually. Not a major fan of controlling the roof from the wall dbx... c'est la vie

Ah... this one though... right... it would provide the framing yet not cause problems with dividing up the room. The others all good suggestions, just that I was thinking only in terms of what would get the framing to show.

Thank you Perry, good points. I was mainly curious because Michael suggested the potential problems with using room dividers/hidden walls to create drop ceilings using the ceiling finish layer solution, but it seemed to me that you also need them for ceiling planes... which apparently holds true, so I'm still not sure how the ceiling plane method is better than the method Mick suggested... EXCEPT.. as you pointed out, that with ceiling planes you can control the direction of the framing separately from the ceiling/floor above.

Low-tech man here... I assume this requires participants to have a microphone?

Question to make sure I'm not missing out on some functionality of ceiling planes; If you are using them for a dropped ceiling in a part of a room (per OP's pic) then don't you still need to use walls to make the lowered ceiling plane have a vertical finish up to the main ceiling? Of course soffit can work in many cases too, but then you don't get the framing.

That would be handy. In a similar vein, I've wished for an old cad ability that allowed me to isolate a layer (turn all other layers off) with a single command and click, then turn back on all the other layers with a reciprocal command. Same ability would be nice for isolating a single snap type then bringing back all snaps with one click

Wow... that long ago. I never noticed it either. I guess we can all go nuts with curved walls now...lol

True, it's not a great solution due to the abruptness of the elevation change, but for speed and a few inches of change I thought it would be acceptable. For a few more seconds I think this solution is more acceptable.

That is common. Did you use a p-solid drawn in elevation for that?

Let's just say said garage was built on a very level lot, and the garage slab was 6"-8" above grade (4" conc. plus gravel base) ... pretty sure the solution would be to build a ramp of earth/gravel/concrete up to the garage floor level.

Use a terrain area modifier to raise the terrain in front of the garage what looks like about 6" for a few feet from the garage. The driveway tool only follows the terrain, so if you need the driveway higher there, you have to raise the terrain there. You could of course just raise the whole driveway 6", but that would not look right.

You need to make sure that the light you put in the closet is actually turned on as well.

Could be wrong, but I very much doubt it. I doubt there's a way to make it relative to the door swing position... and besides, then where would it go with non-swinging doors? I think your original answer is the best current solution.

Ahh.. thank you Chop... I replied a second too soon.