GeneDavis

CAD detail from view is produced at 1:1 scale, just like the 3D model. It is sent to layout at your specified scale just as for plan views, elevations and sections, CAD details, and schedules. Consider some one on one training for producing con docs, or watch training videos.

When all is final, no more edits, no more changes, CAD detail from view is the best method. But then with everything final and ready for ink, you won't be getting auto updates to live views, either. Best practice for you might be to wait until everything's settled before beginning the layout work.

Is it a requirement to see them open in elevation view or in plan view or in 3D? Because closed they look like a standard cabinet. And a callout can describe what is needed for the cab build.

Here is the image I forgot to attach to the post above. Right side follows procedure, left side not. This, before I have built trusses.

OK, after a nice conversation with a Chief tech, and writing and then deleting a suggestion for change, I have arrived at the correct way to do scissors trusses and wall framing, when you want to control your wall heights. Build with room heights as you want, delete all your flat ceilings as you regularly do when doing scissor trusses for vaulted ceilings, and draw the ceiling planes with their bottom edges to OUTSIDE of framing. Build roof planes and edit as needed to get the roof height where you want for the desired truss envelopes. Here is a key step. Open all the walls upon which trusses bear, and in the structure page, check the radio button for Platform Intersections>Ceiling Platform to be Stop at Ceiling Above. In the section view attached, the wall on the right has its ceiling plane drawn over, and is specified this way. The wall on left has its ceiling plane drawn to inside of framing, and the platform intersection is specified as Automatic. You created the ceiling above at your desired elevation when you placed its outboard (bottom) edge at outside of framing. This stops the wall at that height and the wall will frame with desired plate height. The walls can then be framed before truss generation, or after.

I see what happens now. I never use that TrussesNoBirdsmouth option, but it is clear that when it is checked, it prevents the walls from framing properly. Gonna turn in a ticket to Chief.

Here's my plan. Where's yours? Test truss.plan

Sequence: Draw walls to make "room". A four wall house. Leave room height at whatever default you have established up front, but know it. Mine is 109.125. Build the roof above the house, elevated up to have a 1' heel height for the trusses, and a pitch twice what you want for your vaulted ceiling below. I did a 10 pitch for a 5 pitch ceiling. Edit the "room" AKA house to NOT have a flat ceiling above. Draw the ceiling planes, setting their bottom elevation ('fascia') at room height, in my case 109.125. One of my pics shows my ceiling plane limits at the drywall layer of walls. Now draw trusses. Then, after trusses are edited however necessary to look right to you (Chief needs work for energy heels), frame the walls. Michael's trick of doing 1" widths for all elements (chords, webs, etc.) to get the truss to look right at the heel, then reset all back to 3.5 seems to work nicely. But the energy heel is not the issue here. What are you doing differently?

Read my earlier. You gotta build the trusses to get the walls to frame true.

Do a simple 4 wall plan. Do a roof so its baseline is 12 inches above room height, make the roof a 10 pitch. Do 5-pitch ceiling planes under, lower end at your ceiling height. Autoframe the walls. Since you have not generated trusses yet, those wall heights ("plate heights") are not what you want for the roof structure with trusses. Draw the trusses. If you have wall autoframing on, those side walls under the trusses will properly frame. Add windows to the walls, and they will autoframe, again with top of wall right for truss bearing. What is the issue?

Room heights rule.

What's the problem? I want to frame efficiently with regards to available materials, so I am going with precut stud wall heights that are right for the sheetrock modules. That's 8, 9, and 10 feet plus the 1.25". So there is my room height. And that is where walls will frame to, every time. Reframe, and they frame up to those 97.125, 109.125, or 121.125 tops. So, room heights. Set them and forget them. The heel height for the trusses is either determined by energy, meaning something like a 12" rise, or by structural engineering, meaning what minimum it's gotta be to handle load with span. I'm always working where the ground snow load is about 100 psf so I have a truss engineer on speed dial for scissors in that second category. So there you go. Your room height for your ceiling plane base, and your heel height for the baseline height of the roof above.

We use the concrete-filled ones you cut to the height you need. They come with a base plate that anchors to the slab, and we use the Simpson LCC caps. If a builder told me I had a lally upside down in a 3D render, I'd say my bad, that render will never make it to the con docs, it was for illustration only, and leave it as-is. The lallys, and their hardware, are annotated with callouts on the structural floor plans.

How'd ya get three different foundation schemes in level zero, all 3D-built in one plan file? You're a wizard!!

Looks like you need a tiny cricket there.

So you want to go with 2x8s for the pantry and 2x12s for the adjacent kitchen? Who frames like that?

I get the plates I specify. Why don't you? Name us the software for drawing plans that sizes rafters and floor joists. What are your expectations, exactly? Whatever you frame with Chief, it counts. Do this. Draw a one floor 30 x 50 rectangle, frame the floor only, do a material list, screencap it and show it to us, and tell us how it's wrong. And attach the plan.

Describe your manual adjustments to framing, and point out how Chief built it wrong.

Why do you need to display this in plan view? It's an unconventional way to show a plan of cabinetry. Very unconventional.

Use solids to make your truss and put it wherever you want. A floor truss can only be put in a floor envelope. What you want is a truss as a drop beam, something Chief does not do. If it is not important you see it in 3D (will 3D views be in your con docs?), just do a beam the size of the truss, and label it as TRUSS in your structural plan views. You can use CAD to show something in section view.

Call me stupid, but why can't your girders be up in the attic with the other trusses, which are then hung to its bottom chord with appropriate connectors? I'd suggest you consult with a truss engineer before going further.

I placed a Pella Lifestyle casement in a wall in a plan. The size is a standard for them. The label reads "CUSTOM." I see nothing in the dialog for the object that lists all the standard sizes for the window. The Pella standard size chart for this window type might be 10 widths by 15 heights, or 150 possibilities. Please show us how to open this dialog where are listed all the sizes.

Why not do soffits for the drops?

Solids, make symbol as cabinet door, set stretch planes, done.

So you have designed the building for a friend who needs a set of sealed plans for permitting, and this third party is an autocad-using architect? Who thinks he needs to draw the whole thing over using his ACAD? And only then can he do whatever review is needed? Why can't he print your layout pages and mark them up with needed changes, whatever he sees fit to do, and you then revise, he prints again and seals, and your friend is good to go? It's what my guy does.