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He wasn't, and he has now conceded this. He has admitted that he was mistaken. But with that said, this is some weird stuff that I have not seen before

Jim, this is so weird, how do you group select a psolid in elevation if it is drawn in plan? Well one way is to select it and then shift and select another PSOLID that happens to be there...... this is bizarre........ or you can select it, hold down shift key and reselect and now you can rotate it.... but it is rotating around something somewhere else in the cosmos.... this is so bizarre..... I have to think about this for a day or so...... what an interesting thread.... Who started this dang thread..... this is going to cost me a lot of money and time figuring out this mess........

Holy f'ing komoley, I don't know how to use this yet... but I have never seen this, and I don't even know how to do what jim did. Jim, you did not draw this in elevation, you drew in plan.... correct? And if this is correct, how did did you "TILT" it? This is so weird, if I look at it in plan view, there are TWO, I said TWO images of the psolid. Wow, I don't think TB knew about it, Jim thought TB knew about it, so Jim found something that I do not think too many people, including TB even knew existed, . Hey Jim, help me out here... you drew it in plan.. correct? And then you tilted it, correct? How did you tilt it?

And to confirm, I right click on an edge in plan view, the contextual menu shows up, and the break tool IS NOT AVAILABLE. So I don't think it is possible to break the edge of a PSOLID drawn in elevation. But you guys say it is possible..... another example of my "P" size brain (no reference to the Real P. Man) not working.

That is what I thought. When I first read TB's response, I did not think it was possible. So I went in office, drew a profile in elevation, gave it a 48" depth, went to plan and tried to break an edge to reconfigure for an "L" shaped garage plan, and I could not break an edge in PLAN. Would you mind posting a small plan of this working? For some reason, I cannot break the edge of a PSOLID in plan view, created/ drawn in elevation.

I am so confused with this. Is this a solid or a PSOLID?

I just went and checked a mature plan how long it would take to edit roof lines in 3D. 3 seconds is about it, therefore I avoid editing a mature plan's roof in 3D. I agree, a pain in the derrière. However, if I remember, I did have a lag on the PC.

My lag is not that long.... depends on the plan.

I do not think this is possible.

Suppose the garage is "L" shaped?

And hit f12

Graeme is correct.

That MacBook should work fine. My MacBook pro is probably 6 years old and CA works fine on it..

Phyllis, I have no clue where it is. Nuts, if I get into office early enough in AM, maybe I will try to do a quick vid, sorry, I just don't know how to find those old vids, I kind of did them only if I did not know the answer so if was a learning process for me...... I think your p,an is posted..... I will see if I can do vid in AM.

I don't run into this problem much, but once in awhile I do. This was a good post CC. I don't think it is something CA can help, if you think about it, if they fix it for one specific situation, it will not be correct for another situation. My brain is fried..... I can not even begin to explain this in words, but I can visually imagine the issues.

Now I get what you were saying. Yeah, I agree, a little confusing. Here is a solution, and I do not know if it is a workaround. You need to create a THIRD MATERIAL called BRICK HORIZ 2, copied from BRICK HORIZ, and then you will rotate the PATTERN and not the TEXTURE, and all will be well. Actually you might have to create a FOURTH material from BRICK, and only rotate the PATTERN and not the TEXTURE Here is a test to visually understand what is going on. Create (3) slabs, 48" thick, and apply one of the 3 materials to each of them and then flip back between render view and vector view. They all behave differently. Look at the 2 pictures and compare the render views vs the vector views...... BTW, I did not create the FOURTH material, but if I did, I bet we would see something else that was different. CC, this was a great post on your part. I always thought I need two textures, one being a rotation of the other. But in reality, to cover all bases we need FOUR different materials to cover all bases, with varying combinations of either the texture being rotated or not. This is really a function of what you are applying the material to. Is it a PSOLID, or a SLAB, or a PSOLID DRAWN IN ELEVATION, or is it a MOLDING. Thanks CC.

Come on CC, you are dealing with two different things in your two pictures, and Alan eluded to it. In one view you are looking at the texture, in the other you are looking at the pattern, totally different. Just rotate the pattern or the texture 90 degrees and it will make sense.

Yeah, I did a vid on this somewhere. I do not think I would of said use a roof plane, almost positive I would of suggested ceiling plane. I have done this probably 4 times on plans and it was doable.

Easy peasy. What do you want it to look like on the right, what kind of walls are you using on left?

I did not look at plan, but maybe a sloped ceiling plane will work.

It's an attic truss. Do a search, should find threads and vids on it. Also look in old forum.

Sorry Matt, I know that...... I a trying to shake my curmudgeon rep., there is only one true curmudgeon ....

Totally agree, it's auto and live.

Hi Mike, I understand now, you want AUTO EXT. DIMENSIONS to both sides WITHOUT the wall thicknesses, I missed that. Thanks for bringing up the topic, I learned something.

Yes thanks, I finally get it, I am not sure I know what the OP wants, it seems I can do whatever I think he wants. The question is, what does he want to do that he can't do?