Joe_Carrick

OK, this can be done: 1. Pink Filled Wall superimposed on the Blue Filled Wall 2. Pink Filled Wall Layer turned off 3. Blue Filled Wall Layer turned off The Blue Filled Wall is a Normal Wall. The Pink Filled Wall is a No Locate and No Room Definition Wall The fill on these walls could be anything you want and the Layers could be any layers.

You can define different Wall Types with different Fills. You can also define different Layer Sets so that the colors are different for any given Layer.

Sal, Is the project number a part of the File Name? If so, I can create a macro for you that will extract that part of it.

That's an interesting approach. I would have just copied the material and edited the angle (pattern and texture) of the new material. You can access this in the Structure Tab of the Room dbx.

Good morning Todd, Like Dennis, I seldom let a RT go beyond about 8-10 passes. Gene's comments are very good - under cabinet lights & a full tile backsplash would help along with some accessories to provide a little color and interest. Don't forget to add a molding edge to your countertops. The sharp edges are disconcerting & I'm sure that's not what you would specify.

Only a few Chief Objects have the "Add to Library As" button: Doors -> Door or Doorway Cabinets -> Cabinet Modules or Cabinet Doors/Drawers I'm not sure what else - maybe the help file will say. OK, I just checked and those are the only 2 listed. Basically it says that where a Chief Object has other symbols inserted - you can Add either the entire Object or just the extra inserted object. The way this works for example is that you can select a cabinet and save as "Cabinet Doors/Drawers" and what you have in the Library can be used as a Door or Drawer Front on other Cabinets instead of being the Cabinet itself (which is the default if you just use the "Add to Library" button.)

Curt, You have to be in a 3D View to use that tool.

Here in California stucco is 1" with a waterproof membrane and wire lath but whatever the thickness, Chief expects there to be a surface exterior layer - outside of the main layer - which is why I suggested that you modify your Wall Definition.

When you want the Gable End to be wood framed - add a short (1/16" tall) 2nd floor with wood walls. That will stop the CMU at the ceiling and everything above will be wood framed.

This is a case where you need to use a "Custom Backsplash". It's on the Cabinet Dropdown Menu.

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I think you have a problem with your Wall Definition. You indicate the exterior material is stucco but it's 7-5/8" thick and evidently you want to use CMU with a stucco coating on the exterior. You should add an exterior layer to the wall definition. 1" Stucco 7-5/8" CMU 3/4" Air Gap 1/2" Drywall Make Layer 2 the Main Layer

Amazing stuff!!!!!!!

Scott, I used a Custom Counter Top. That's easier to control the Layer, Color, Linestyle & Weight.

Linestyle by Layer Control.

Now, if we could just set the Layer for the Label to the same Layer as the Symbol................ Then we could have Notes for not just Plan Views but for Elevations, Sections, etc.

I agree, moving the Hood was just so I could see the Cooktop in Plan View.

Ahhh...... The problem was that the cabinet was only 36" wide and the Cooktop was also 36" wide. By creating a long custom counter top the cooktop inserts into the wider counter just fine. You probably want to make the cabinet wider by a couple of inches if you can.

Todd, I'm not sure exactly what's going on but try this: 1. Move the hood out of the way 2. Create a custom counter top 3. Place the Cooktop 4. Move the hood back That seems to solve the problem

That's correct. Insert into Countertop cuts a rectangular hole the same size as the Symbol. So if your symbol isn't a perfect rectangle, you need the Counter Top to be a part of the Symbol.

BTW Todd, This Symbol has almost 20,000 faces. That makes it what we commonly call a "PolyHog" and if you get too many of faces in a model it can slow down Pan & Zoom and maybe Ray Tracing as well. A few of these isn't too bad but just be careful.

OK Todd, I added a Custom Counter Top to your Symbol (a full rectangle with a hole in it so the lower part of Cooktop around the burners would be recessed. Then I created a new symbol from it. You will note in the pic that the Counter Top of the new symbol is just a light beige. When you put it in a Cabinet you need to paint or edit that to match your Counter. CooktopGas-Todd's.calibz

Another option would be to ignore "inserting into counter top" and just deal with the z-origin. Just set it down far enough that it still sits high enough to obscure the counter top. BTW, usually a symbol that is designed to insert into a counter top should have a rectangular solid just slightly larger than the object to act as an "Inserted Counter" and it should have a material designation of "Counter Top" so you can adjust the material.

Todd, Can you export your Symbol and post that file (calibz)? I will take a look and see what I can do with it.

Todd, Adjust the z-origin value in the 3D Tab of the Symbol dbx to move it up or down. There is also a set of values for sizing that should adjust the hole size.