Alaskan_Son

Are you sure you placed and selected your new Symbol and that you didn't just select the old one?

Yup. Chief made this a lot more efficient in X12 than what it used to be too. I personally don't create a polyline for every room though. Only for the entire area I want to reference. I only d for sperate rooms when there's a specific reason to do so (covered deck vs. uncovered deck is one example). I also recommend creating a uniquer Saved Plan View for this "Area Analysis" where only the required layers are displayed, where almost all layers except rooms are locked, and where you have a Current CAD Layer specifically for your Area Analysis Polylines.

There are many many roofs in Chief that can easily be built using Auto Roof settings and others where manual involvement is just going to be required no matter what you do. I think you picked one where building Auto is an exercise in futility and where manual is the way to go...at least after getting partway there. Also, just a side note, but I would strongly recommend against clearing your plan of everything and using a single room to find a solution. Plans aren't typically modeled that way, so practicing that way is going to result in finding solutions that won't work in a real plan. Take that invisible wall that was added above...That may or may not even be possible depending on where the interior walls actually land.

Depends on how you draw the roof. Auto-built, they are set according the the room ceiling height in conjunction with the rafter or truss top chord settings. Manually built then it depends on where you start dragging out your roof plane: -Over a wall: Uses ceiling height along with rafter or top chord. -Over another roof plane: Uses height of existing roof at that point. -Over nothing: Uses default ceiling height as set for the current floor along with rafter or top chord settings.

I have my doubts.

This is one area where Chief is pretty inconsistent between the various dialogs. In the Build Roof and Roof Defaults dialogs, the display is controlled solely via General Plan Defaults>Show Pitch as Degrees In the Roof Plane Specification dialog, you have a checkbox right there underneath the setting for Pitch in Degrees In all other locations it is controlled via Number Style which you can access for every dialog down in the lower left hand corner.

By the way, Glenn hinted at it earlier, but it would really help if you were to adjust your Segment Angle at Curved Wall in your Build Roof dialog. Turn it all the way down. I think you can only set it to 6 but that will likely be enough. Using the method I mentioned above you can go even lower but that would mean switching to manual roofs.

Sort of. You have to use boolean operations (usually subtraction) to get a true arc onto a roof plane. They don't behave when they're true arcs though and you still need to Convert Curve to Polyline.

What you're showing is what I would probably refer to as a Dutch Lap. Do a quick search for "Seamless Dutch Lap Texture" and see what you come up with.

Okay. Thanks for the update.

You betcha.

Looks like I may have misunderstood the question. I thought you wanted to overlay your actual Chief Architect® Plan View so that you could view the plan view line-work over your terrain. From the looks of it though what you really want is the aerial view image? If so, never-mind the poly-line solid idea with the PNG. That won't really give you what you're after.

If the tools functioned like I mention above, there wouldn’t even be a need for the extra Eyedropper tools and we could more affectively control which object(s) we were trying to reference. It would just require a slight workflow change. Instead of clicking on Eyedropper (and hoping you picked the right Eyedropper tool) and then clicking on the desired object, you would instead select the object and then click the tool to either Paint Layer or Set As Current CAD Layer. In addition to other benefits, it would allow us to tab to buried objects (which we can’t do with the Eyedropper) and it would allow us to leave any given tool activated. You could leave the line tool activated, select a CAD Block, click the Set As Current CAD Layer tool and immediately start drawing your lines. Or maybe you realize that your CAD Block was on the wrong layer? Simply select a different layer in ALDO/OLP, click the Move Object(s) to Layer tool and then immediately click the Set As Current CAD Layer tool.

I disagree with Chop on this. Pretty easy to accomplish. Eric suggested one easy method but you can also export an image of your plan view as PNG and assign it to a zero thickness poly-line solid or face and just place that directly above your terrain. This would maintain the single plane affect that would be lost if you simply paint the image to your terrain. In both instances you'll most liekly want to properly crop your image and use a Material set to Stretch To Fit.

I'm with you Rod. I've thought for quite some time that the various Layer controls need to be better consolidated and synced up. For example, both the Current CAD Layer and Layer Painter tools give you a list of layers but no way to create or edit those layers. I suggest that we get some additional buttons or right click options in Active Layer Display Options to... Paint Layer where you select the layer and then Paint it to various objects Set as Current CAD Layer In addition, I would love to be able to move the selected object(s) to a layer using Object Layer Properties or Active Layer Display Options so I'd also like to see a tool to... Move Object(s) to Layer

Ah, you didn’t say you were GROUP selecting. That changes things. The behavior is different during a group select and I believe it always has been.

It’s always about WHICH wall you select and which of the associated dimensions you click on. you can either select the wall and then click on a parallel dimension in which case you will be changing its length or you can click on a perpendicular dimension in which case you would be MOVING the wall along with any connected walls ends.

Preferences>Appearance>Minimum Display Size>Labels

I personally couldn't work without them.

Preferences>Edit>Selection>Show Start and End Indicators. They're not new to X12 either. We've had them for as far back as i can remember.

It won’t work in Excel, Word, Notepad, Mozilla Firefox, or anywhere else I know of either and none of them mention it in their manuals. I suspect because it makes little sense telling people everything they can’t do...particular when it’s something the software wasn’t intended to be used for or when it’s a regarding a subject that was really only designed to be utilized at the developer level (i.e. NOT by the end user).

Typing the character in a text field or using it in text macros (simple string replacement) is probably a lot different. In my own personal experience, I've found that you can manipulate left to right spacing (bearings/kerning) at the font level but line spacing and feeding (with the sole exception of a newline) is always controlled by the application. The application may or may not use Unicode characters to represent the line spacing but it's not something the end user can do using control characters. At least that is my experience.

Sorry, I think I misunderstood what you were after. I thought you wanted 1-1/2 spaces between characters. I see now that you must be after 1-1/2 newlines. Sorry, but I don't think Chief supports that functionality. In fact, I've never actually seen it put into use anywhere.

Is it doing what you want it to so far?

Sorry Chop, I posted that from my phone and the quotations didn't translate right. Use this instead... "  "