Alaskan_Son

Try the Rooms layer.

A few ways to skin that cat too. First thing I’d say is that using the Page 0 method is really risky unless you are VERY consistent about always using the same scale for every single view. If you are though, what you just spelled out is about the only method. A safer method is to either strategically position the %scale% macro in the view itself, this way it always reflects what’s actually happening; OR, use the layout box scale macro instead (either in the actual label or using a referenced context macro). Aside from those methods, I think manual entry is best.

Away from my computer, but if you select the cabinet and then click Generate Custom Countertop, I don’t believe you’ll have the same issue to contend with. I believe the problem is that the automated cutout is being created by a Hole In Custom Countertop (which is part of the 2D Block for the sink symbol). When you draw out a Custom Countertop, you’re defining an edge that crosses that hole. The result is an extra 2D face. When you use the Generate Custom Countertop tool however, Chief recognizes the problem and doesn’t draw the extra edge.

A few notes: That %scale% macro works great, BUT it must be placed in plan if you want to get the correct printed results. When placed directly in layout, all you'll get is the scale of the actual drawing in layout as it relates to the page. So, if you print your PDF "To Scale", then the resulting text will be "1 in. = 1 in." Don't forget that we actually have automated page number macros. Not sure I see the benefit to using the page label. It just seems like extra work to me based on the page numbering system you're using. If it's me, I would just do this: As Mick said: Open Layout Page 0 and uncheck Include In Layout Page Table Replace the Label Column with the Number column and Rename it "Page"... Replace your "%view.name%" macro with "Page: %page.print%"... The results will be totally automated page numbering (no need to enter it manually), and in my opinion, the Layout Page Table looks less cluttered without the extra "Page" on every line...

Current version is 22.1.1.1x64

I've been asking for labels and various attributes for CAD based objects so we could do stuff like that for quite some time now. In the meantime, the best we have is Line Style>Show Length which DOES display the radius for arcs. It's just really limited what you can do with it is all.

Just opened an old X3 plan. No problems at all.

Pretty sure X12 will open an X5 plan just fine. I think the X8 thing only applies to the old PL1 files.

I also use the copy/paste hold position method for plan views, HOWEVER, this isn't a good solution for other view types and details. For those, I use lines (not temporary points). These can be copied and pasted from page to page, but whenever reasonably possible, its best to just pace them on page zero so you can use the same line as a reference on all pages. These lines can be left off the page and used for alignment and centering without the need to ever turn them off, or they can even be placed in the middle of the page and can be toggled on and off by placing them onto a unique layer.

...and have you made any additional progress?

Oldest one I currently have loaded is X7, but it worked the same in there as well... I agree.

If I'm understanding correctly, he wasn't trying to move it. He was trying to initially draw it. That is, he was trying to drag out a 3/4"x1/4" polyline.

It's not that such a small angle creates the problem, its that the problem only comes into existence at a specific combination of angles and it only takes a single degree to put it over that threshold. This is true of almost every software limitation. There's a specific threshold. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, this same problem occurs with reflections in PBR's too. It can get really frustrating because you're essentially forced to position the camera where you don't actually want in in order to get acceptable shadows and reflections. Its one of the big areas where I see Ray Traces remaining irrefutably superior.

It’s always worked that way Joe.

You mention changing the floor/ceiling heights and changing the wall types, but did you check those other settings I mentioned? They were all major contributing factors in that plan.

I probably should have clarified, but I forgot. There’s an important distinction. Its always horizontal and vertical relative to the image.

I don't even know where to start, but here's where YOU can start... -Inspect the ceiling heights. They're not consistent. -Inspect the Joist Direction Arrows. There are a whole bunch of these that may be giving some specific instructions that you may not actually be wanting. -Check walls that are set as Bearing Walls. There are some of these that may be giving some specific instructions to the joists that you may not be wanting. -Check the walls that are set to Hang Floor Platform Above On Wall. There are some of these that are affecting how the joists build as well -Look for Bearing Lines. There are also some of these that may be adversely affecting how your joists build. All these issues are similar to the last issue I inspected for you. It's not a problem with the program. It's really just a bunch of faulty settings.

Here's the method I would recommend... Draw a CAD line depicting your desired reference line. Now rotate that CAD line so it's perfectly parendicular. Now select the image and do the Pt. to Pt. Resize using your CAD line.

It has always worked on vertical and horizontal only. It continues to work the same.

You can deal with unwanted attic walls in a number of ways without turning off the functionary including but not limited to: -Changing the attic walls to invisible walls -Turning the layer off -Using a more suitable wall type for the wall below (and thereby changing the automatically generated attic wall) -Changing the attic wall itself to a more suitable wall type

yes. me too. i'll have what he's having.

Mick was showing how to turn the function off because somebody asked. I could be wrong (I hope I'm not) but I don't think he was actually "suggesting" anything. I certainly would not suggest people turn that setting off. It's going to cause a lot more problems than it solves. I would suggest even the most advanced users typically leave that setting toggled on...less advanced users, even more so. If you have unwanted attic walls its almost never a problem with the walls themselves, rather, it's usually a problem with the user prematurely modifying them, or simply not understanding what the walls are doing or how to control their display. In short, I recommend you leave them turned on and just learn to work with them as they were intended.

This is perfect Kevin. Thank you. I was looking for some commentary info. online but couldn’t find any. I’ll need to just pick up or download a copy. Thanks again

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A couple other little tips: 1. You can always build walls out of multiple walls sandwiched together (not overlapping but sandwiched). You can have a framing layer only wall and a drywall only wall that wraps around all those goofy problem corners. 2. Don’t be afraid to simply use CAD masks were necessary. You can just match the wall fill and use the invisible line style where necessary. It’s really easy to spend a ridiculous amount of time trying to force a unique scenario to model perfectly when in reality it doesn’t really matter for anything except one or 2 views. Spend two hours making the model perfect or spend three minutes and get the job done?