HumbleChief

LOVE it...

THINK I got it, just not that impressed for my purposes...

The only other option is the glass house in the vid above. I think I might be missing something?

The thing about Chief over the many years I've been with them is they seldom refine features much and if it starts out unusable it can remain that way for many many years. Maybe an exception here? Would you actually use this in a presentation?

It's that same simple plan as the above video. Closed it up and it's only an experiment... Just something I would never in my business real world. If there was more control I would like to keep the as built as standard view and the proposed as something with more options, like line drawing or almost anything other than glass house which I never use...

Thanks, Got it or at least as good as it will get with the current feature set...

Here's a short version Gene. Can't seem to get the line detail that David is showing above...

Yes, very cool but would be SO much cooler with more reference display options other than just standard and glass house.

No problem...

There are 8 different note types and they can be grouped and titled in any way you choose. Explore all the dialog boxes and try some combos that work for you...

That's been my experience as well. It's a bit like the more useless detail pages are included in the plans the more valuable that set of plans somehow becomes? The builders I work with appreciate simple, clear and most of all relevant details, and nothing more.

Nice video Joe and I like your approach. I like the use of Plan Views that save the floor number and your overall creative approach. Like Scott, I have a plan file with details as well and I have also used floors to separate detail types but now have so many details that they are spread around all my floors and I just go to the closest relevant detail (no matter the floor) and start from there. Over the many (20?) years of using Chief I have found that none of the details in their library are correct for any building detail I need for a specific job and even find I rarely have the correct detail in my detail plan file as is the nature of many custom details. I end up using an existing detail, copy and paste it in another location on the plan sheet and modify from there. Also my business model requires very few details as I hand most of that off to a structural engineer but am constantly creating custom details for small job requirements and like Scoot, and perhaps you now, have a separate plan file for that purpose. Not sure of the approach I would take tomorrow with Plan Views and all but I think you are on to something as you customize the idea to fit your specific needs.

Yeah that would make more sense...

"quick and easy"...exactly.

NOT liking this 'feature' AT ALL. Might be missing something but it seems like this new feature adds steps? What am I missing? We now have a convenient and familiar drop down menu with many fills that are seldom if ever used, and an extra step to create and get to the custom fills that we use every day? Does anyone else thinks that's just a bit backwards?

+1 meant to mention that in one of those vids but good reminder..and all of the other edits you might need to the as built and its layers/sets can be done 'interactively' as well...

Nice Rene, Did NOT know we could ref all 3D views as well. And ref'ing the as-built for all of the tech stuff that matters is a really a nice feature. Currently adding capabilities as they come up real-world as you are doing.

Not something I will use...or at least haven't a need for them yet...

Another way we will use an external re set. It looks like other uses will pop up as we get deeper in to the feature...Keeping an open mind.....

Here's a use for ref sets from an external plan that we will use immediately. Might be what you are referring to as the"As-Built CAD Mask" Michael? This will save a lot of steps to create that 'mask'.

Keeping an open mind and hoping the new tools add productivity to everyone's work flow...

Thanks for the video Rene. The more I learn about the multi ref sets the less likely I am to actually use them - at all. Our current work flow is simply faster and much more simple. Will explore a bit later perhaps when needed but for now, have lost interest...and rarely find Chief's new automated tools faster or more efficient, like story pole and the note schedules and few more I can't think of. I have simple systems that work better for me. A video showing a simple technique I've adapted for elevations new/as builts. Can be modified as needed of course but I have everything in place and the elevation ref sets just make it more difficult, and much less flexible for our current work flow... Not for every one of course but hard to intentionally add complexity to our current work flow.

Elevations can be referenced as well. Need to learn more about that technique

Here's a video from team bone head. I'm sure the experts will chime in with further refinements.

Yeah pretty confusing all around me thinks. There has been quite a loud clamor for multiple ref sets for quite some time and really never had the need for them myself but Chief added some really powerful features for using them with existing plans that could be really great for remodeling with as builts and new construction. Here's Chief's video explaining and did you watch Rene's video in this thread? Hope that helps https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/2442/productivity-features-added-in-x11.html