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..and the file with that little symbol is 7 or 8 times larger than my typical template plan...hmmm Then I closed the file re-opened it and it's back down to size?? Weird? X11_symbol_stretch.plan

The new symbol creation tool is very cool and allows for any shape to be turned in to a symbol but the stretch plane tools don't seem to be consistent? Has anyone tried the tools? Do the stretch planes behave as expected? EDIT: Solution is a few posts down not a bug, user error, surprise? Here's the tool in action. Here's what I think is a bug? EDIT: Not a bug - user error...

ALWAYS appreciate your help Mick...

Yes, correct Glenn, not sure what I was doing that was not retaining those windows. Tried a few times and the windows were not retained then they were, only coincidentally after I changed those prefs but I think, as you wrote, it wasn't what changed the behavior. I think bone head user error actually caused and fixed the issue...

Thanks Joe, I was not getting the Project Browser, docked ALDO Windows to remain in the template. Looks like my prefs were not set up correctly. Thanks again for your help...

Mick, I think that was it THANKS!!!

,,,should they? How?

Been using Templates for 20 years and are 'excellent as you've suggested. Was curious about the Views, thought they were retained but I guess not...

Open a New Plan>Go to 'View' and open the Project Browser. Save the plan as a Template. Open the new Template and the Project Browser does not show up.

Do the Templates "retain all of that" 'Views' for you Joe?

The stuff under the 'View' Menu like the Project Browser...

It doesn't seem to "retain all of that" here Joe...

I think the latter, Items from the 'View' Menu Project Browser 'View' Active Layer Display Options 'View' Library 'View' etc....

Seems the Template doesn't save those 'Views' and they need to be re-opened with each new template plan... could be missing something.

Curt, can you do that without a new Layer Set for the new Plan View?

Good thread...Thanks Scott and thanks for the vid Steve, I had a shelf ceiling fail the other day, user error most likely, but had to give up and P-Soild my way out of the jamb I created... Maybe I can learn from your vid how to use the tool. I've been trying to discipline myself with Chief and to learn when to hold 'em and learn when to fold 'em when Chief's tools, or my ability with them, just isn't getting the job done.

That goes counter to everything the save as function is designed to do and would not know how to get one 'saved as' plan to change another plan. Do something different?

Thanks Dermot, that challenge in this case is a user who is not fluent in the ways of Chief and am perhaps trying to oversimplify things for his use. "The way to turn off a reference is to simply remove it using the delete button. The way to turn on a reference is to insert a new one." Perhaps the feature is designed to work this way but it just seems to a be a lot of effort if changes are needed/wanted. I think different plan views is the only real solution for what I am asking for - still think the feature request is reasonable as you've alluded to.

Hope this helps...

Curious about how (if?) they are being used by other users. I am find the inability to easily deactivate a view to be really, really inconvenient at best. There's a work around but still find it awkward at best. Here's what I mean...

Surprising how inexpensive these have become....not for everyone of course, but hard (for me at least) to not have the newest tech in a new computer. Keep us posted on what you end up with David, thanks... https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?reviews=all&item=9SIABVR7E372221

I would be very surprised if a modern MBoard didn't have all the options for various HHD interfaces - AND would very hesitant to purchase one that didn't. To me one of the reason for the purchase of a computer is to "run chief okay for the foreseeable future," and buying a computer that doesn't have the most modern, fastest currently available HDD interface? Not for me...

..in my opinion, yes.

+1

I would (and have) import the image in to Chief in to a CAD detail window or in to a plan file and simply draw stuff on top of it. You can create solid white boxes to hide details you don't want and draw lines and text in the place you do...then send the CAD detail or plan to Layout or wherever it suits your intent the best...