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Oddly enough there's an "Italian Manor" sample plan with a turret on the Home Designer web site that loads OK in X12. And again oddly enough it shows the same sort of not quite right framing and gaps as all my current attempts. Maybe there's a clue in that plan that will help. There's also a picture of a Chief model showing that turret from the pic above but can't find that sample plan.

Thanks Michael and yes a low setting in the segment box draws a pretty nice circle and frames OK, only with a second floor from my experience so far. The challenge then gets interesting as we want to frame the upper roof with 45 degree segments to create an octagon roof over the circular walls and am attempting to retain planes and framing for those upper 45 degree segments, but the 45 degree won't work on the lower roofs which need that 6 degree segment and haven't found an auto frame combo that will work. Will most likely manually frame everything as even the circular walls create really wonky so-called 45 degree segments. Needs a rest for now....

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WOW, this is proving to be an absolute nightmare. Maybe I can download the house plans for the image shown above advertising the Home Designer Suite? Clearly it shows that this type of building can be created in the software? Or can it? And mad props to you Mark for getting as far as you did with your design...

Fascinated by this idea as it might solve another challenge but can't find a way to "us(e) a true curved polyline to create a true curve to that roof plane." Is this possible?

Thanks Scott, the second floor option works great and not going to mess with the only one floor option. Have you ever tackled a tall turret like shown?

Funny - but wait it is possible to create the illustrated structure in Chief Home Designer but....

Thanks Glenn, AND the roof frames to inside of the wall above roof plane instead of the outside edge when a single floor is used. A second floor solves that and the roof frames completely differently. Here's a shot of a roof plane framing to the inside wall of the wall above the roof plane. Seems like it simply cannot be done with a single floor. The turret in the background has a second floor.

Thanks Ryan will keep that in mind.

I'm ready for a few niggling issues myself....

THANKS. Second floor seems to be the only real option and got it to work but changed so many things that I don't know what was wrong Now the fun begins....Thanks again.

THANK YOU Steve. VERY interesting. I've messed with wall defs in defaults and other things that might be messing things up in my template. I'll check. Curious did you use a second floor? Are the walls on the first floor invisible or did you check the interior view? Or is that a single floor with a higher ceiling? Does the interior open only to above? Perhaps I could check your plan? Thank you again.

Thank you Joe. I'm getting closer with some searching. Found the "Segment Angle at Curved Wall:" setting and the "Min Alcove Size" setting which has helped in a couple of areas. Still not great and see a lot of work ahead to reproduce something like the attached pics.

Here's the best I can do on the house plan with a second floor. Is this even doable in Chief?

Looks like a second floor is the better option...but? There's a bit of roof interaction that I have not been able to resolve no matter the settings I've chosen. Curious about other and or more accepted practices for a turret roof/entry? Is it even feasible in Chief? Thanks TURRET PLAN 2.plan

Thanks Joe, my skills are 'obviously' lacking in some regards and that worked great. I've attached a simple plan that shows the framing and the 'messed up' framing or roof connection in a turret entry. This plan is with a first floor higher ceiling and am just a bit lost as I've never tackled a turret entry before. TURRET PLAN 1.plan

Is there a way to draw a complete circle with the curved wall tool? I can get close but then have to draw a supplemental wall to complete the circle. Trying to create a turret entry about 20 feet high but am stymied at this point and the 2 walls for the circle seem to be messing me up. Can't post the proprietary plan at this time but thought maybe others had experience with same? EDIT: Changed the title as I am having no luck with a turret entry. Is it doable? Also wondering if you would use a second floor for the higher turret or just raise the ceiling of the first floor within the turret?

THANK YOU Joe, was looking under the wrong terms.

Curious, thanks.

Looking too. Takes a couple days me thinks...

I still don't get it...

This has been my experience as well.

BUT you have to know even though I've seen that dozens of times too I just tried it on the folder I just posted and it worked as expected - just to make me look dumb(er).

Yes indeed but there are bugs and nuances within the simple spec's that Chief provides. If you check the dbx I posted in the first post it has spec'd that there will be an auto archive warning after 14 maximum archived files. I have more than one folder with more than 14 files and an 'occasional' warning that used to take me to the folder with too many files but now if I get the warning and say OK to manage those files it does not take me to folder but the dbx just disappears. It's a bug on my system but can't be bothered to report it as it does not effect the archived folders - or does it? Dunno but here's a pic of a current archived folder with more than the spec'd 14 files. Blanked out the names to protect the innocent. Is there another part of that system that can get corrupted? More likely in the case of this occurrence user error of some kind but just sayin' there are some inconsistencies and again just a reminder as to what can go wrong.

Difficult to summarize over 20 years of using Chief in a manner that is detailed enough to describe those 20 years of learning and understanding the nuances of Chief in posts here. There might have been a time within those 20 years where the archived files were saved to a different folder than where they should have been located and through those 20 years have figured things out. I do indeed know where they should be located and where they should be according to the current settings. Apologies for making it sound like that was/is not the case.