HumbleChief

Yeah it works great to update the template plan and both plans are identical as is expected since the new template is based on the changes to the existing template but there's another plan created. Curious and might be missing something.

Never understood this behavior. I make a couple changes to my template plan and want to overwrite the existing template. Select File>Templates>Save as Template. Uncheck the delete all check box, check the Set Template as Default for Imperial Plans, click OK and Chief creates a new untitled plan. Why? Same behavior in X13.

Glad you figured it out and wanted to add a small detail. Dimensions and text can be set up in 3 different ways. Use Layer for Text Style - Use Text Style - Use custom Text Style. I've become a fan of Use Layer for Text Style as shown in the second pic below. Hope that helps a little.

Thanks Scott, appreciate you taking the time to reply and hopefully the OP got the plot plan view he was looking for.

Certainly not hassling you, nor discounting your opinion, just sharing mine. Again please give it a try and report back I would love to be wrong.

Triple thanks Rene - very much appreciated.

Good advice as well and ref sets are indeed powerful (even though I don't completely understand them) and am wondering what has changed in X13? I have X13 but don't see any visible changes in ref sets. Is there a Reader's Digest short version of the 'fixes'?

Along with Eric's excellent (as usual) advice there's also a roof control to "Display on Floor Above" and "Display on Floor Below". Might help with your desired result. EIDT: You could also put the first floor roofs and the second floor roofs on different Layers, which complicates things a bit but gives you more flexibility.

Was done recently but wasn't that easy to locate but some really great info and presentation by Chief's Scott Harris. https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/10252/rendering-techniques-best-practices-vector-watercolor-clay-others.html?playlist=171

OK, but I'm saying it does not have some 'neat features' and the tag line which is always the same no matter the newest software or app "It's that easy" or better yet "Fun and easy" and as Chief found out with its (very similar features) fun and easy 'Room Planner' that it just didn't work in a real world situation and they discontinued it. I tried to like it but after just a couple minutes I could see it wasn't a great real world app for any kind of design. I'd suggest that if it's sold as 'easy' it probably isn't but only one way to find out, download it and see how it works. See if a room can be measured with actual furniture in the room using that particular 'neat feature'. See how 'easy' a real world design can be created, both good or bad by qualified professional or great/poor homeowner designer. Been there done that and perhaps I'll wish them luck and would love to be wrong. Give it a try and let us know how those neat feature work in real life.

...and most homeowners will find that there's no real 'ease of use' and perhaps that pretty cool measuring tool is actually pretty cool but perhaps it's only pretty cool after you remove all the furniture in your house? And how many here have had homeowners use these types tools only to create the worst designs you have ever seen? Oh and last but not least, does anyone remember Chief's super easy to use and 'fun' Room Planner? Nuff said.

:28 "It's that easy." Actually laughed out loud...

Curious and as usual I am always quite excited about new releases and downloaded X13 ASAP, opened a current X12 project and literally the one time set up Auto Story Pole (a feature I still find marginally useful for my plan set ups) it revealed a bug in the display. Not a huge thing at all but I stopped using X13 at that point and will wait for an upgrade to use it again, which will include a complete uninstall/reinstall to preserve templates etc. How about you? Do you use it day to day? Problems? Likes? Dislikes?

Interesting and Tried the tip above but as you can see it only works with dims between markers.

For anyone interested that diagonal line is indeed the wall cap and a simple wall break at that point fixes the issue. True in X12 as well.

Curious, where was this info found? Thanks

Not sure how I'll use this feature but I have at least 2 different scenarios where my elevations are labeled in the actual elevation and always come in to the Layout with the Layout Labels that I need to delete, and other layout boxes that actually use the Layout Label. Again not sure how this will be used real world but am looking forward to learning.

New Features PDF... https://cloud.chiefarchitect.com/1/pdf/marketing/x13-new-features.pdf

Something I thankfully have not had to use yet is auto archive before creating a file name. I've gotten cuaght out a couple times and had recreate some work in the past so hopefully this will cure some user error.

Nice Gene, Let us know it performs please.

Is there a way you can get the plan/layout here to the forum so we can see how it behaves on our systems?

Been that way for a long time as well and perhaps it is a problem with the PDF or the PDF creator but did it actually get worse in X13? Sincerely hope not.

Chief has always had problems with PDF's with Chief being slow, slow and slower with large PDF files. Typical suggestions are to use a different PDF creator/editor different resolution etc. but the problem persists in Chief and the time suck of such things can be intolerable. Haven't tried large PDF's in X13 yet but reports such as these will cause me to wait on any further plan/layout creation in X13. At this stage in the Beta process it is invaluable to send your problem files into tech support to see if the problem can be reproduced. Takes some time and effort but it will help the program and users and will be most appreciated.

The issue with MAC's and Real Time Ray Tracing (RTRT) has been known for a long time but it's understandable if it somehow went unknown to many users. I haven't Ray Traced in years and won't start anytime soon, even with RTRT, which saves an upgrade to a very expensive GPU that I don't need and also allows a focus upon all of the other new features that are, IMO, outstanding. Small things like a more thorough undo, which came in handy today, and other small things that will add to this users production ease and speed. And if I understand the post above MAC users should not have to pay the same SSA fee as Windows users because Apple has decided to create their own standard that will be compatible with only Apple products or at least make it very difficult to adhere to therefore creating a vastly inferior Chief product? I guess I don't understand but best of luck either way.

THANK YOU Glenn! Hope you're well. Tech is looking into that 'feature' as well.