HumbleChief

Way to go you guys. Glad you got it worked out.

I actually built a shipping container structure in La Jolla, CA. If you don't know where that is it is in one the most highly regulated areas in CA. Shipping containers are amazingly strong and structurally sound - until you cut a window or door into them. That's where the engineering fun begins as they are suddenly worthless from an engineering standpoint. If it's in your back yard I would have no problem. Permitted and inspected? I echo everything John_Charles put so well above, and then some. I recently watched a video of a young couple who built from a couple of containers and they framed up the interior walls for electrical and insulation, then drywalled and could have done the same thing for way less if there was no container in the way. On the other hand these sorts of explorations and experiences can lend a huge amount of knowledge to your portfolio but if you decide to actually build with shipping containers beware and carefully read what John has posted above.

Here's the plan from a closer camera view. Haven't viewed it yet but maybe it will help? https://3d-viewer.chiefarchitect.com/go?share=203228054774368

I noticed the the view on my rig started to break up the closer I got. Would it help if the camera were closer to begin with?

Definite difference in the views but have no idea why. The one generated here looks acceptable and I would be OK with client receiving same, though like I said I never use the feature. The one generated on your set up not so much, but again the solution is above my pay grade. Let us know if you figure it out.

Here's a screen shot if the vid's resolution is not good enough.

Let me know if this helps.

Hey Scott, looks like Dave's views (above) are RT's from his RTX 3070 video card not the 3D viewer. Not so much apples to apples. How are you generating that picture view? Perhaps I could generate something similar for you to compare, if that might help.

...or at least look seriously into what it will take to complete a shipping container home. Will there be permits? Or is this a backyard project with no inspections? If it's a permitted project let's just say you will have a lot of fun getting the engineering done as a start. There's a couple threads here re: shipping containers that might be enlightening. As far as your picture it looks like there might be some roof framing that's not showing that makes it looks like your roof is too high. You can adjust the roof framing, turn its layer on if it's not, or perhaps lower the roof but getting a plan so we can view it is your best bet.

Got it, and thank you, and as always didn't explain myself as well as I could have but your help is always appreciated. I have X13 but have been hesitant to use it as I found a couple of bugs rather quickly and want to finish up a couple of plans in X12. Didn't know about the ceiling height below change in X13. I'll move to X13 sooner rather than later.

Thanks Michael, the air gap was there to even the second floor floor heights allowing the ceiling heights below to be adjusted if needed. I finally worked it out by ensuring the first floor ceiling heights did not need adjusting, locking the "floor bottoms" when altering the framing on the second floor and now the first floor rooms throw the "can't adjust ceiling heights because the floors above are at different heights (sic)" but now, no need to do so. Here's a pic of the framing showing the 16" deep TJI's and beams and the 2 x 12 deck joists, both running in unexpected directions but verified in the field. I can now get this to my engineer without having to explain in word only. Thanks Chief, and thanks for the help.

It looks like the technique has to include a first floor ceiling height that doesn't need to change before messing with the second floor framing. That way the ceiling heights don't NEED changing when the floor heights above no longer match? Make sense?

Thanks very much for taking the time Mark, and yes getting rid of the air gap works on this simple plan but the warning about ceiling heights can't be adjusted because the floor heights above vary returns and in the actual plan I need that option to change ceiling heights. I'll look again but I THINK I need the air gap?

Not sure how you all would handle this condition. There is a second floor living area that sits on 12" TJI deep framing and outdoor living area that sits on 2 x 8 framing. If only the floor heights are adjusted then there's that warning about ceiling heights on the floor below can't be changed because the floor heights above vary. Adding an air space to the 2 x 8's brings the floor heights to equal but the framing at the railings and wall transitions are raised over the air gap. It can be handled with a detail but am wondering how you all might deal with the same condition? Thanks FLOOR JOISTS.plan

Yes there are ways (better?) other than the expected method of selecting objects and inspecting them in the ALDO to see which layer they are on but that's the point. If you don't know the miriad of methods available in Chief, as a new user, it can be frustrating. Why can't that dashed line be selected in plan view to inspect its layer and turn it off/on like every other item? Why does that dashed line ignore every attempt to select it other than creating a CAD detail? Long time users have figured it out, but why does it need figuring out by side stepping all of Chief's conventions of selecting objects and their layers?

I went through the process many years ago by turning all the layers off, then on, one by one until the 'ceiling break lines' appeared. Can't be selected to learn the layer they are on and haven't been selectable for many, many years. There is STILL no better way to find their layer than the method above and the tips suggested.

Thanks for the great tip as always Glenn. Perhaps it will help the OP as well.

Hi Doug, I wonder if you might extend a small courtesy and let me know if the picture attached is not what you are looking for. If not, again please let me know and I'll stop trying to help or perhaps you can explain a little better what you are looking for? Best of luck either way.

Let me know if this helps. I THINK what I did was add another floor that the roof lives on then used Glenn's suggestion of adding a railing on the attic level, changing that railing to a wall, raising it up, then back to a railing wall with a "Raise Bottom" to clear the roof below, the adjusting height again. Apologies as I could not really duplicate what I did and it's an X13 plan so hopefully it will help somewhat and hopefully it's what you are looking for. Tried it in X12 and could not get it to work again, so maybe not so much help... 562403700_GREENROOF1.plan

Didn't know that - still appreciate it.

Thanks you guys, this feature is simply brilliant. Takes the worry out of migrating from version to version.

Worked a treat - thanks so much for the quick response and a GREAT new feature.

THAT'S pretty amazing. I'll give that a go.

Curious too about bug fixes too. I ran into 2 rather quickly...

I was just noting that X13 is out of Beta and have a question that I think is an easy one. I earlier upgraded to X13 and migrated all of my templates libraries etc. but found a couple bugs in X13 and have not used it much but for one plan set. I have changed a couple of my working X12 templates in the meantime and don't really want to simply upgrade my current X13 install but rather delete the current install and re-install the newest version and migrate those altered templates etc. from X12 into the latest version. Should it be that simple? Or is there a landmine I could be missing?