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Carrie, Is there a list of known bugs? If your development team already knows about some problems, it would save people looking for answers that don't yet exist, and it would let us know what we have to work around. Thanks. Doug

Ahh I see.

Well, I don't think that the joist direction symbol had anything to do with it because the double floor problem occurred prior to my using joist direction. I did the joist direction in an effort to track down what was causing the problem (not very successfully as it turns out.) But the joist direction tool did offer me a clue by indicating a silly joist value. In any case, maybe one of the tech staff will read this thread and offer an opinion.

Michael, You nailed it. This is how it was set up. Amazingly, even though it lists the TOTAL assembly assy at 8 1/4 inches, it made TWO layers at 16 1/2" I kind of think this is a bit of a gotcha. Here is my dbx following your comment Should this be reported as a bug? It seems like a bug to me. In any case, erasing all framing and regenerating creates a floor with only one layer. I now have significantly less hair than I had this morning Thanks Michael. Doug

I have tried the simple things, including your suggestion. In fact, to simplify the model I erased everything but one area of the building to get rid of any possible interference from other things. After each change, I delete all framing and regenerate. Every time two layers of floor joists appear. Simplified.zip

No, I don't think so. If you click on the joists, both layers are listed as floor joists.

Checked the dbx and there is only one floor.

I have a strange problem with a file created by one of my clients. Not that the client created the problem, it may have been something that i did, but I can't for the life of me figure out what is going on here. If you click on one of the rooms at the back of the house, ( Raised Floor or Kitchen) then click on "generate framing" There is a double layer of floor joists and rim joists. Does anyone know why this is happening and how to stop it? Floor_Problem.zip

Thanks for the update Dermot. It is gratifying to see that CA are monitoring the forum and paying attention, jumping in when a simple post can clear up a ton of misunderstanding. Well done.

Eric's suggestion is spot on. My suggestion for a ceiling plane may be over the top and not required.

In general this can be accomplished by adding a ceiling plane. Do you have a Chief Architect floor plan for this house under way? If so, it would be good for you to post your plan file so far. Another thing you should do is create a signature for your posts that lets people know what version of Chief Architect you are using, what your hardware is like and what your operating system is.

Michael, It changes the header now. That is the point. Issuing a warning would be a great feature.

Apply the brick material along a 3d moulding polyline?

Joe, I am on board with your comments. The error message would be best, rather than a "silent" adjustment that you may be unaware of.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to All Looking back on the past couple of years my little practice has contributed a lot to the region that I live in. I couldn't have done this without the help of a few people who have been amazing support. Thank you all. What a great community!

I put a flat ceiling under the roof, but gosh, it sure makes an ugly transition at the bay window.

Why is this not available at the MMAH website? Why would do we have to resort to back door methods for finding it? This is what I am saying the ministry and the provincial government are really not paying attention to the seriousness of the need to be informed about the OBC and all of the supplemental parts found in Volume 2 of the compendium.

Never mind, where you got that is obvious in the link. How did you discover it would be a better question.

That is a really big help, thanks. Where did you get that?

There were a number of public hearings on the issue. There was also a for part survey done by the MMAH that I participated in. The website is pretty much useless when it comes to information. Hopefully that will change. I am not talking about a change that will happen next year, but that direction is the goal.

Graham, As far a being overly concerned the MMAH has made it clear that the mandate from the Ontario Government under Doug Ford has, as a goal the privatization of the administration of the building code, and one of the steps in doing this is to no longer offer interpretations of the technical aspects of the code as a service. It seems that the provincial government wants out of the building code business altogether. The OBOA (Ontario Building Officials Association) which represents Chief Building Officials, Plans Examiners and Building Inspectors is very concerned about this direction. They, in fact, are worried about Part 11 of the code as well because of the direction the provincial government is taking. I don't know if you have a copy of the Building Code Compendium, but I have a 5-year subscription and I do not have the changes yet for the revised code coming out January 1 2020. How am I supposed to design buildings for next year? This just illustrates what a low priority the Ontario Building Code is for the province. Doug

I am a BCIN small building designer here in Ontario, and I am quite concerned about the Provincial Government's announcement that they will be moving to harmonize the Ontario Building Code with the National Building Code. For one thing, the Ontario Building Code has a part 11 that deals with existing older buildings that when renovated will not match the style, wall thicknesses and so on of the existing building. The Part 11 compliance alternatives are all that allow for any renovation in older buildings, especially when it comes to the minimum size of windows, basement insulation and fire separations. Especially in buildings over 30 years old, compliance may simply not be possible. The addition of a second furnace for an accessory apartment, for example, can be extremely difficult to darn well impossible in so older Toronto homes. For those of you who work in other provinces than Ontario, does your Province have a separate building code? Do you design to the NBC? Some feedback would be greatly appreciated.

I took a different approach, noticing that the order of layers was different in the curved wall than the straight wall. I reversed the straight wall and bingo. Upper section disappeared. Wall_Problem_Design.zip

The hardiboard and then used the rainbow tool to adjust the pattern.

Getting warmer, but not quite there. Around the arch is the door casing with a round arch spec. For some reason, the arch shows solder bricks. Maybe because I textured it with the brick first.