Joe_Carrick Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Nice Joe. What about Floor Plan Views? They can use a Layout Label no? Perhaps no macro, but label text correct? I just use a Text Box with the Text I want - in the Plan. That way I can set it to the font and Size I want. You could use %view.name% Plan if you want but the names will be: Foundation Plan 1st Floor Plan 2nd Floor Plan 3rd Floor Plan Attic Plan It works, but it has some limits. It would be nice if Chief would allow the Floor Plan Names to be edited in the Project Browser - but I don't expect that to happen any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Graham, I am confused, I am telling you that I can relink EVERY VIEW IN LAYOUT TO A PARTICULAR PLAN in one fell swoop. here is a vid https://youtu.be/oK7-1ePBQQw Scott - Really appreciate the time you spent. Got it! Did not know there was that "Tools", "Layout", "Referenced Floor Plans" that would globally relink the associated files. Great Job!!! & Many Thanks, Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 I just use a Text Box with the Text I want - in the Plan. That way I can set it to the font and Size I want. You could use %view.name% Plan if you want but the names will be: Foundation Plan 1st Floor Plan 2nd Floor Plan 3rd Floor Plan Attic Plan It works, but it has some limits. It would be nice if Chief would allow the Floor Plan Names to be edited in the Project Browser - but I don't expect that to happen any time soon. I get some really bizarre behavior and can't spend any more time right now but here's what I get when I create a text box and insert %view.name% %scale%. This is after I got 53/194 in = 1 ft. Seems to work with Rich Text hmmm. Fail again. One says 1/4" good the other says 1/8" sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Scott - Really appreciate the time you spent. Got it! Did not know there was that "Tools", "Layout", "Referenced Floor Plans" that would globally relink the associated files. OMG..... .... I would never have done it any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I get some really bizarre behavior and can't spend any more time right now but here's what I get when I create a text box and insert %view.name% %scale%. This is after I got 53/194 in = 1 ft. layout labels.png Seems to work with Rich Text hmmm. Larry, I do not use %scale% in the Plan. I know that Chief recommends that macro because it corresponds to the printed (or displayed) scale. I prefer the scale sent to Layout. -so- I use %view.name% in a Text Box in the Plan and Scale: %box.scale% in the Layout Box Label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Wow, really don't understand that scale macro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Larry, I do not use %scale% in the Plan. I know that Chief recommends that macro because it corresponds to the printed (or displayed) scale. I prefer the scale sent to Layout. -so- I use %view.name% in a Text Box in the Plan and Scale: %box.scale% in the Layout Box Label. Interesting - Thanks Joe. I can see why you don't use %scale% in the plan. ...and using %view.name% in a plan text box will save me a lot of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Larry, Glad I could help. FWIW, CA's reason for using %scale% is that no matter what sheet size the Layout is printed at, the scale will be correct. I use not only the %box.scale% in the Layout, but I also place a Graphic Scale in the Plan. I have a note (Page 0 of the Layout) Graphic Scales govern - Text Scales are only correct it Printed Sheet is %sheet.size% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 No, you use the box scale from the layout view, plan view has no label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 OMG..... .... I would never have done it any other way. Unless of course you were unaware that there was such a command, which was clearly indicated in my response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Unless of course you were unaware that there was such a command, which was clearly indicated in my response. Yeah don't let 'em get to you. There's probably a thousand commands I still don't know about after using this beast for 15 years and I pick up one tidbit every day, a lot of the time from your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Perry, I agree that the Plan views don't have Labels, but they do have names - as shown in the Project Browser. I edit those names (already done for all Cameras, CAD Details, Sections, Exterior Elevations, etc) and then in each of those views I have a 9" (for 1/4" scale) text %view.name% positioned as needed. When I send (or previously sent) the view to Layout that name is included. There's no need to type it in the Layout Box Label. I'm all about having everything done in the Plan and the Layout being AUTOMATIC including as much text as possible. It's also noteworthy that the view name is displayed in the Plan so you know exactly what you are looking at. Interior Elevations, CAD Details, Wall Details, Elevations, Sections, etc are all automatically named in the Plan and that name is in the Layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 It's also noteworthy that the view name is displayed in the Plan so you know exactly what you are looking at. That's the limitation I found with Layout Box Labels. I wanted to see the view name I was working on in i.e. elevation view and the Layout Label didn't let me see that, or was redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Joe, But I am having a big slowdown ( with leader line text) and can't, at this time, want to add more macro's to my plans until Chief fixes this. It helped when I reduced the amount of macro's in my plans but I really want to add more macro's. Maybe it's just my problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernie Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 nope Im the same, when you start running more than 30-40 macros (not complicated ones) CA does slow down in 2D views. x8 seems to be slightly better in this regard than x7. macros involving leader lines and area macros are a killer on cpu drawing time in 2D. run with minimum u need to get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Perry, It's not just your problem. CA needs to fix it and hopefully they will in the update this week. The problem is not the macros per se - it's the Leader Line Text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I don't think they will fix it this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 If not, I'm going to start screaming !!!!!! I don't even think it's user macros. I believe it's the quantity of CA's own built-in macros that result in the slowdown. IAE, adding a macro to a CAD Detail or Camera View shouldn't effect the speed in a Floor Plan View. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Just to clarify what I think is happening. Macros are normally only executed when the current active view is refreshed. With most tools in Chief only the thing that's being created or modified is updated, not the entire screen. Apparently, with Leader Line Text that isn't the case. With Leader Line Text, it appears that all macros are being executed repeatedly. That shouldn't need to be the case - and since CA's built-in macros are executed in the main Chief thread (unlike user macros which are executed in a separate Ruby thread) it causes the Leader Line Text to be slow. Once they find where it's happening in the code it should be very easy to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Thanks Joe, lets hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 FWIW, I just did some further testing and I get some slowing with all the text tools - but Leader Lines are the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernie Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Im the same. if I remove most of my text, speed improves. I only have to have 5 or leader lines working and I can see a slow down on a 6 core cpu. once again, the best thing CA can do is improve 2D speed with real world .plan file in operation, before any further enhancements to the program are undertaken that will slow it down even further....... need minimal lag in responsiveness to mouse scrolling / zooming - very very important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscussel Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Larry, I also use the %Scale& macro. It works fine. Ignore the scale changing as you zoom in and out. Zooming is actually changing the scale of the view. It will print correctly at the scale you send the view to layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share Posted February 23, 2016 Here's what always confused me bout re-referencing a plan file within a Layout file. All of the plan views i.e. foundation, electrical, framing etc will be updated after re-referencing but the elevations and sections will not and have to be resent. If the plan file is "Saved As" within the Layout I believe the Elevations will be updated and preserved but not if the plan is worked on and 'Saved As' outside of the Layout. Gotta test that theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Hi Larry - just wondering, if you click on one of the elevations that did not update in your layout and click relink what file name does it show in the DBX. Is it the same as the new plan file one or is it still associated with the former plan name. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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